My, aren't you gracious? Obviously everything thing else in my earlier post was so important to you that you had a burning desire to nitpick every little point and nuance without providing any new information. You just don't miss any opportunity to display the superiority of your opinions, do you?
I went to the effort in a separate post above to state that these are not my opinions but rather the "collective opinion" of people who have argued this in the past and who are far more knowledgable in this subject than I could ever hope (or want) to be. I merely wanted to present in "brief" that collective opinion, and, as it has been distilled over the years, wisdom, for whatever that was worth. As usual, it wasn't worth very much.
I quoted you point for point, Steve, to be clear, not to put you down. There's entirely too much "drifting" in arguments of this kind, typos which serve to confuse, wording which might have been better dressed but no one went to the trouble, etc.
You're taking offense and getting heated. That is obvious. And for no reason. Well, for no good reason. And I refuse to participate on that basis. Life's too short, and I just don't see any possible stake of mine in this that is worth that aggravation. None. I'be been there before and it's not a happy place to be. I choose to live elsewhere. [:)]
This is precisely what I meant in my opening remark on this thread about opening this particular can of worms. For reasons which I do not (will never) understand people get hot under the collar in these kinds of debates and begin to take arguments adverse to their position as personal attacks, assaults on their native intelligence or what have you. It's the same when someone dares to critically analyze the Zero for what it actually was. In that case matter how much good data is presented to the "Zero people" (so called) they simply will not listen, will not budge from their position, but will get hot under the collar and shout "I believe something else and my opinion is just as valid as yours!" Happens (almost) every time.
Okay. [:)]
Anyway, I'm out of this argument. I will, however, in a separate post provide a few more links for anyone interested enough to read the opinion of others. There are one or two threads over on the Naval Weapons discussion board which fit in nicely with this thread. Unfortunately, the old board over there, maintained for some years, has now apparently been disposed of, which kills off access to a lot of good discussion in the past. A pity.
Perhaps this discussion might be taken at some future date to a more fruitful and less destructive place. But I don't know. The history of the Matrix boards suggests otherwise.