<t> philly,<br/>
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I'm with you. I've bought all versions of both puresim and ootp since the beginning. I pre-ordered ootp and took it for a spin. I spent a couple of hours looking at the application, the user manual and the 300+(!) game guide for ootp. I decided to shelve it as well and ended ...

Shaun,

I like to start with a fictional base and then mix in hall of famers as the league progresses through the years. I get the pleasure of having unknowns develop side-by-side with the "real" greats.

--Mike

I tried to download the patch this morning and it's not working. My download manager starts but the download never happens. Is the patch available at another location?

Thanks.
--Mike