<t> I've noticed there seem to be some differences in the stock formations/plays (11-man US style)<br/>
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In most of the plays, 1st 2 DBs are the safeties, 3 & 4 are the corners.<br/>
But, with the stock 4-3 base formation, those are reversed, so if you set up your roster with your best 2 ...

I spotted a problem where some generated players had skill ratings of 100 or more in some categories. David said he'd fixed that (for the next public beta). Could be related to the problem you're seeing.

Glad to hear you got it sorted.
Cheers

Top man!
Looking forward to the next public beta

Thanks David
If you need any more info, let me know

<t> The situation that causes the problem is as follows:<br/>
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League game, playing v computer owned team.<br/>
Win toss & elect to receive. Computer team kicks off no problem.<br/>
At start of 3rd quarter, instead of being offered a Kick Off play, only offered a kick return play to select ...

<t> That's weird.<br/>
I've double checked & the table is definitely in my maindata file.<br/>
Can also see the values if I open the file using notepad (did a search on QB).<br/>
Don't have the IDE on my MF machine so can't check.<br/>
I'm wondering if this is something to do with a difference ...

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: MjH<br/>
No, this wasn't just restricted to the kickoff at the opening of the half. It just so happened that this was a high-scoring game, so I got to watch more than a couple of kickoffs and it happened on all of them.
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In the ...

David has moved some of the constants into a text file called constants.dat but that doesn't contain the skill ranges.
I just had a look at my maindata.mdb and it seems to contain a table called
SkillAttribute_Ranges which has those settings (but not tried altering them)

<t> If you can recognise what the D is doing, you can call plays to beat anything.<br/>
But if you keep calling rollout plays, I'll just adjust my calls on D<br/>
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I thought part of the game was two coaches trying to outsmart each other.<br/>
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My posting was simply an attempt to ...

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: MjH<br/>
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"The kickoff from was returned by /r."<br/>
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After the out-of-bounds kick, the <I><s>[i]</s><B><s>[b]</s>kicking<e>[/b]</e></B><e>[/i]</e></I> team was rewarded with a first down at their own 35 yard line. ????
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<t> I actually did something simlar when designing a safety blitz as DBs don't seem to have a Pass Rush command (or I was just being thick & didn't notice it).<br/>
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Basically, I used a Move To to move him to just beyond the LOS, then had a Read. Works like a charm - because he arrives late ...

<t> Yeah, I've seen something similar. Hadn't made the connection between saved & non-saved games though. <br/>
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Also noticed that kick return TDs are recorded as double the amount actually scored (i.e. a player returnung a punt for a TD is shown as having 2 TDs in the league stats).<br ...

<t> There aren't any false starts, would be nice to include these at some point.<br/>
Presumably with likelihood governed by a player's discipline.<br/>
Maybe even an increased liklehood of a false start when playing away from home in a hostile environment?<br/>
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Also, equivalent pens on D ...

Excellent.
I look forward to the next release
Thanks again

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: David Winter<br/>
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If you decide to adjust those values, you want to go in small increments. 15.5 to 16 is probably going to get you the results your after.<br/>
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If you want to see something silly, set it to about 30 [:D] .. just don't report that ...

Just had a look at the constants.dat.
I'll try upping these 2 values tomorrow sometime & see what happens

Physics_MaxFGStrength=15
Physics_MaxKOStrength=15

<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: David Winter<br/>
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Well as for the kick-offs and field goals. I'm not sure of an answer there. Believe me, there was great debate amongst the beta testers and myself as to what 'good looks like' for kick offs. I have seen some go into the endzone, others ...

OK, thanks.
As I said, its not a huge problem once you know about it as you can design the plays to take it into account

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Were these 4 or 5 teams human owned? If they were human owned, it would be up to the human to flesh out these rosters.
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No, they were all computer owned. The one human owned team got the right number of players<br/>

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