<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: Falokis<br/>
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After reading this thread, I'm rather shocked how much some people care how/where they download their games. It's minimal effort either way.
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I can totally understand what you say. I guess it's more of a ...

Never said that.
And if you look at the previous posts, you know where I am standing.

<r> Because it is always taken as extremely important what notch says, here is his latest comment on steam:<br/>

<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>Yeah, it seems like pretty much all the things we wanted to do are possible on Steam now, which is brilliant! Since I made that blog post, Minecraft has kept ...

<t> Today I listened to Three Moves Ahead Podcast. A great strategy game podcast and this time they talked about Endless Space.<br/>
Google for "three moves ahead 176" as I am not allowed to link pages yet.<br/>
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What has this to do with Distant Worlds? Well, they mention the game one time ...

Just stop arguing with him. Better for your heart. Learnt that already. ^^

<r> Now that seems to be a chance. ^^<br/>
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<URL url="http://steamcommunity.com/greenlight/">http://steamcommunity.com/greenlight/</URL><br/>
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<I><s>[i]</s><B><s>[b]</s>What is Steam Greenlight? Steam Greenlight is a new system that enlists the community's help in picking some of the ...

While that would be an option, it would make it even more expensive. But I can wait and haven't lost hope.
Besides that, there are so many 4X Space games coming out the next months as never before.

Probably he is waiting for the same as I am. ^^
Price too high + Separate Download Location instead of Steam.

But maybe we get lucky with the next add on.

Also check this thread: tm.asp?m=3113522
Not that there is much info, but at least a big speculation and arguments.

<t> Lets say that I fully understand why it was done and approve that they did it.<br/>
But I also understand why you and lots of other people don't like it.<br/>
And yes it sucks that the servers were offline so often. No, I would never have started a character which I could never use in ...

<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>The question is: Can the developer demand that their product not be required to have the always on stuff that Steam and their ilk currently do? I don't even mind having to be online to activate, as long as it is a one time thing. Any game that requires me to be online also ...

<r> True. However I don't think that DW has any exclusive content which would be excluded from steam and only available on other sources. And that was pretty much Notches point. This can also be found here:<br/>
<URL url="http://www.golem.de/1106/84199.html">http://www.golem.de/1106/84199.html</URL ...

Yep, personally I guess it's a good choice to add it on steam due to the large audience.
What I meant with 50% is that they would need to sell it for 40€ instead of 80€.

<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: mullk<br/>
Steam caters to a wide verity of gamers but wargaming is dead to all but a very small number of developers and distributors. The only wargame I can think of that Steam has is the Hearts of Iron franchise and I don't necessarily consider HOI a true ...

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Wrong. <br/>
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SOTS2 installation requires that you install Steam and connect to their server.<br/>
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If Steam goes out of business, you will not be able to install SOTS2 again. If you move to another region and buy a new computer, you will not be able to ...

<r> Most of the posting is nitpicking now. I wrote "Personally" and "consider"..<br/>
on the other side you approved
<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>I agree 100%. Anyone who sells on Steam loses me as a customer. <br/>
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but well, lets not go into discussions ...

<t> A hard copy is probably the safest option, true.<br/>
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At least if there isn't an online DRM. Got an old Witcher 1 Version I wanted to player at Witcher 2 release.<br/>
However their homepage for Witcher 1 was not updated and I wasnt able to download the patch - which also included the ...

<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: Kayoz<br/>
Hrmm - I'll have to reconsider my contribution through Kickstarter. I was under the impression that it would be released DRM-free. If they are going to require the installation of spyware like Steam, then I'll wait for Razor1911 to fix that.
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<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: Kayoz<br/>
Where do you see Xeononauts being offered on Steam? I see nothing to support this statement on either Xenonauts' own page, nor on Steam.
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<URL url="http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/69341191/xenonauts">http://www ...

<r> I don't see where all the hatred is coming from, especially when steam is just an option and not mandatory. Currently it seems like everyone and their dog offers a steam version as an <B><s>[b]</s>option<e>[/b]</e></B>.<br/>
Examples? Xenonauts, Grimrock, Avadon/Avernum.<br/>
And also Galactic ...