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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: kondor999<br/>
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This Trap144 is clearly a TROLL. He shows up in threads, makes inflammatory, completely unhelpful remarks, then refuses to engage in any meaningful way to try and find a solution to whatever he's bitching about that moment (and all he does ...

<t> I'm sorry for upsetting you Mike. I have no idea how I come across as a troll. I understand you are frustrated with me for not making a scenario for you to test the AS-17 thing but that isn't because I'm a mean guy or want the game to fail. I was only posting what I found and I didn't even know ...

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<COLOR color="#FF0000"><s>[color=#FF0000]</s>NO TROLLING[:)]<e>[/color]</e></COLOR><br/>
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Thanks. Moderator[:)]
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You censored a post and labeled me a troll for talking about 2d radars.<br/>
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ORIGINAL: mikmyk

Ookay:)

No worries, I won't report these things in the future.

Does this apply only to guns or missiles too wrt ships? (And subs - torpedo range? )

I feel like you guys should have a handle on this without me doing the work for you I think you're being lazy. Go tell your beta team.

http://orbat.com/site/toe/index.html

free but same researcher if you're not a fan of his work.

edit - nm, these are TOE's for standard units. D'oh

I'll just add for the OP about contrail based visual detection too... comes into play above 25k I think?

So is there a scenario for people to play based on what we're talking about in the thread? Probably should post the name here if there is.

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>Regardless of whether a US carrier is sunk by way of torpedo, or missile, conventional ASBM, or nuclear warhead, the response from the United States would be the same ...

Am I on the beta team? Sorry I'm just posting an observation I don't have files to post.

Does the USA have the equivalent?

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There are no packup or deployment times so currently the whole SAM/Aircraft dynamic is broken. The SAM sites can displace instantly after detecting an inbound ARM.<br/>
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To get the ARM to circle overhead, I used AS-17 vs an S-300 which was moving with the ...

I tend to think you can't hide a carrier these days when the fighting starts. You can make it costly to find at best. This is something we could probably game out and see in Command

http://www.generaldata.info/ fyi

Moderators playing games.

fas thinks 500m CEP's are perfectly reasonable, so unless the carrier reacts pretty quickly in the event of a launch to change course and speed up, an unguided BM volley would be pretty threatening without guidance and with conventional warheads.

Equivalent to saying your carrier is safe as long as nobody knows where it is. Always true, no matter what weapon is in question, and to boot, never reliable as a strategy. Not even close.

Regardless of whether a US carrier is sunk by way of torpedo, or missile, conventional ASBM, or nuclear warhead, the response from the United States would be the same.

You sure? ... The Chinese military disagrees, anyhow.

2d radars can detect either altitude or bearing but not both. I tried to correct your page but it wouldn't let me. They are usually determined by antenna shape, and paired with their opposite.