<t> Yeah, I agree it's not a 100% fool-proof mechanism, and it's exploitable by Axis too. In a lot of ways, Axis are better at this, as they can more easily spend MPPs than Britain can once it's alone. The 800 or so MPP's needed to get full with Britain and Germany are more easily expended as ...

<t> Okay, so after several games, I'm convinced this mechanic is unbalanced and probably broken, though it can go either way. If either side invests heavily into diplomacy with USSR early on, it can swing the game heavily in their favor. I suppose it's capable of being "countered" by the opposing ...

<t> I don't think it was a mistake to pull the Soviet Union in early, it's a huge amount of MPP's to get with the Soviets fully in war. Considering they entered the turn France capitulated, it really put me off footing through most of 1941, as I had to stay mostly on defense against Russia while ...

There's an insanely easy fix to all this though... just limit the number of diplo chits for majors. Like, this is so ridiculously simple, I don't get the need to even argue it. But yeah, it is what it is, I'll know what to watch for next time.

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Defenders of the strategy really need to explicitly outline exactly what form a diplomacy "chit" would have taken in the actual war.<br/>
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I think Diplo should be turned off, and more decision events added to compensate. Right now ...

I wasn't really arguing originally whether it's "balanced" or not, it's just stupid in the context of WW2. But then again, this isn't really a great war simulator to begin with, so, meh, whatever. It's more like Axis & Allies Extra-Extra Edition.

<t> Thanks for the clarification of rules Sugar. In particular, I was unaware I could track diplo spending on the report graphs, I will keep an eye out for this in later games, I'm fairly new to this game.<br/>
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I still think it's a dumb mechanic that the Soviet Union would've even ...

<t> Well I did that, never once succeeded in getting a counter diplomacy roll. Granted, Allies got one boost before I realized what they were doing and started investing in diplomacy myself, which took me 3-4 turns to get up to full chits in it. At 175 cost a piece, that's a HUGE investment for ...

So had the USSR get influenced and attack me in an MP game in May 1940, the turn after France fell.

That seems... extreme. What is the counter strategy to this? Pretty sure I'm dead now, despite having a very successful run up to this point...

I am interested in playing, will take either side. I just got SC3 last week, so pretty new to it, though I played around 10 multiplayer games of various SC2 games in the past, so I'm not a total newb to the series.