<t> Hey Noonanda-- nice to have another artilleryman in the mix. <br/>
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Funny enough I was at Camp Fallujah and TQ from March 2006 to July 2007. I was an Artillery FO and FSS in an Army mechanized infantry company split off from our brigade and attached to MNF West. We brought our battalion ...

My feedback on the proposals is that you're sounding sharp, and in control of the situation, and I look forward to seeing the fruits of your work and research.

<t> Ask and you shall receive:<br/>
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Relevant Doctrine is FM 6-30 (Chapter 2, which lays out the organization of the FIST and FO parties, at company/troop level) and Chapter 1 in FM 6-20-40 (heavy), FM 6-20-50 (light) which both go into more detail. <br/>
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FISTER is the term used to ...

<t> I agree with Lancer on some points and strongly disagree on others. <br/>
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I think it's reasonable to be skeptical about the design and effects of abstracted counter-battery. Have to be careful with that one. <br/>
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I agree that less abstraction, and more emphasis on on-map units ...

<t> Nikolas You don't sound very confused to me! Definitely moving in the right direction. <br/>
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- Distinguishing weapon platform/shell size<br/>
- Specifying whether a battery or battalion is serving in a direct support or general support role<br/>
Both excellent decisions and not complex ...

Devs, Sounds like you're moving in the direction of; a) adding clicks, and b) filling the screen up with icons presumably representing where units were, rather than where they are. Please tell me I've misunderstood..

<r> This is all I want---><br/>
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@perturabo totally agree about arty management being easier than maneuver management. Was surprised people pushed back on that.

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I've also tended to use howitzers and mortars that I've created or modded myself, so the inability of heavy weapons to move has been less an issue for me. Obviously though rectifying this issue for heavy weapons should be a priority. As the Computer is handicapped without being able to ...

<t> Okay @gratch1111 so assuming they choose to implement counter-battery as an off-map apparatus-- how will it interface with on-map units? If I have my counter-battery god shield activated will it target enemy on-map assets like mortars and howitzers? Will my on-map assets be targeted? Or are they ...

Everyone should step back, google and download (for free) FM 6-20-50, FM 6-20-40, FM 6-20-20 and ATP 3-09.42. What is and isn't realistic and applicable to the Brigade and Battalion fights can't be honestly discussed if you haven't read these manuals first.

<r> @veitikka This brings me much sadness! I'm holding my North Africa Mod hostage till we get movement on this!<br/>
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@veitikka it absolutely would bring easement!

<t> @exsonic <br/>
I can only imagine that detailed AARs must be tough for AB, otherwise we'd have them already, but for whatever reason; Steel Beasts Pro PE, Flashpoint Campaigns and Combat Mission all manage to both show indirect fire kills, as well as doing a better job of breaking down the ...

<t> So I stand by everything I've said, but I guess I'll add that light units, specifically airborne, but not air assault, issued GVLLDs to their COLTs, but not their FISTs. The FISTs in Airborne units were issued the shoulder mounted (~handheld) AN/PAQ-1 Laser Target Designator. I have yet to find ...

<t> @Exsonic: Imagine this;<br/>
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Map size increased to 30km. You've got a brigade of combat power at your disposal. H-Hour is set. The brigade's direct support artillery battalion is settled into their AMAs, a few kilometers behind your FLOT. Further behind them is the artillery pushed down ...

<t> So we can't counter abstracted off-map units, and the *solution* is to subject ourselves to more off-map abstracted things that we won't be able to counter?<br/>
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Seems pretty pointless to me. I can already abstract the primary challenges of an environment rich in counter-battery by ...

<t> @chortlebuffer; Yes, obviously one of the most endearing aspects of AB is that you can turn it on, create a battle, and play. I think we all recognize and appreciate that AB isn't CMANO. <br/>
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It's also pretty clear the devs are sensitive to the wishes and limitations of people like you ...

<t> Maybe we're all looking at it the wrong way. Maybe instead of bringing the arty up to par with the rest of the game, the devs should be bringing the other units in line with the arty. I'm thinking scrap the kill counts, unique artwork, and individualized specs for each of the thousands of ...

<t> Of course you aim to model each faction's capabilities with enough fidelity and flavor to make it both accurate and interesting, but US doctrine is actually a great place to start. We've published our manuals freely since ww2 and they are available online. American Artillerists are free to ...