What is really interesting about this thread is, its two and a half months long.

<r><QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>Originally posted by Mike Santos:<br/>
<B><s>[b]</s>Some of you might recognize these are the Essex class Lexington, Yorktown, Hornet and Wasp (not necessarily in the correct order).<br/>
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Where are these ships?? They are not in the OOB, the OOB does not have their air ...

<r><QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>Originally posted by grumbler:<br/>
<B><s>[b]</s>I am still looking for more examples of the US adoption, for a time, of British style warship names.<e>[/b]</e></B><HR>[hr]</HR><e>[/quote]</e></QUOTE>

I assume we must have used names that the RN was not using so as not to ...

<t>I have seen that, and the funny part is that many times there will only be AP's and no support SC or CV task forces so they get wiped out quick.<br/>
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I have also seen them bypass Timor, Flores, and head straight for Austrailia. It is at those times I wish I could load all those Aussie NG ...

<t>Do you know why they chose Reprisal? Intrepid and Enterprise were both RN names we lifted in the Revolution for our new navy. I dont recall a previous USS Reprisal though so that is odd. Was in maybe named in to make Churchill happy maybe?<br/>
They probably scrapped it because they realised the ...

<r><QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>Originally posted by byron:<br/>
<B><s>[b]</s>Based on the lack of conversation these past couple of days, I'm guessing we've really kicked around all of the big issues. So I was just sitting here thinking about issues, issues that make me go "Hmmmmm . . ."<br/>
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Was the ...

<r><QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>Originally posted by Keith Price:<br/>
<B><s>[b]</s> It would be interesting to see if Japan could capture enough softwood forests to produce the requisite amount of toilet paper to prosecute their ill-fated war, without taking Seattle (TP Factory with 22 points!)<e>[/b]</e ...

<t>What about if the Germans had wanted bases in South America and raided US shipping on the way to Austrailia from the east or even between the west coast and Pearl? It just occured to me that this is something allies in fact and not just in name might have done. Werent Argentina and Chile both ...

<r><QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>Originally posted by TIMJOT:<br/>
<B><s>[b]</s> Imagine the Coral Sea with 6 Fleet carriers instead of 2 and Midway with 8 Carriers instead of 4.<e>[/b]</e></B><HR>[hr]</HR><e>[/quote]</e></QUOTE>

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They could have sent 6 to both Coral sea and just chose not to use them ...

<r><QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>Originally posted by byron:<br/>
<B><s>[b]</s>That's probably a little early. You'd get a lot of screaming from the "we want a game based on what really happened" crowd.<e>[/b]</e></B><HR>[hr]</HR><e>[/quote]</e></QUOTE>

I am solidly in that camp, but the Japanese were there ...

<t>I dont think there is any way the Japanese could have won in any sense of the word, short of occupying D.C. after Pearl Harbor. No Pearl attack Maybe. The PH attack even rallied long time isolationists and pacifists to the war effort. Once that happened the Japanese fate was sealed.<br/>
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<r>Actually, I think this is a good idea for a thread. I dont know about definitive answers but here are some thoughts:<br/>
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The game could easily start as early as '37 and possibly '35 on the Japanese side.<br/>
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FDR wanted war but the vast majority did not, so I think it would have ...

<r><QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>Originally posted by TIMJOT:<br/>
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However in early 1941 MacArthur had convinced FDR and Marshall that WPO3 was a defeatest strategy <e>[/b]</e></B><HR>[hr]</HR><e>[/quote]</e></QUOTE>

Of course he changed their minds about PI because that is where HE ...

<t>My final thought on Philipines bypassing is if it would be so easy to run it after the Japanese moved on then why was keeping Guadalcanal so hard?<br/>
I think because it would have been nigh on impossible to bring anything of any significance. Look how much trouble it was getting to an island ...

<t>My idea is not to have the ETO as a temporary drain, but as a total modifier on primarily the U.S. force levels. The worse you want the ETO to have gone the less you get in the PTO. I know this is not possible, but for arguements sake, lets say the Germans took Greenland, Nova Scotia and the ...

<t>Disclaimer:The following is an opinion, and is worth every penny it cost.<br/>
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Sure the locals could supply the U.S. with food and fuel but for what? They destroyed all meaningful air power on Dec 8 and the ships there were 3rd line at best. If the Japanese own ...

<t>Dont know about leaders R&R.<br/>
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The quickest, and most "gameing" way to make the Japanese surrender is take the Marshal Is before you do anything. The AI never seems to try and take it back. Build it up and as soon as it's got a 4 airfield start bombing civilians at night. Also for good ...

No question the Brits would have been effected more but for gameplays sake, they dont matter that much. Sometimes you loose the whole damn eastern fleet anyway with the computer withdrawals.

Ringbolt

"CAP not launched because CAG has the Flu"

I think we need games with a little humor like that every once in a while. I just about fell off my chair when I read that.


Ringbolt

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B-17's patrolling the seaways are bad, but why not destroy them on the ground as they did, and then let Mac rot? Sure they took it easily but to what gain?<br/>
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The idea that they were stopping the U.S. fleet from steaming over after hostilities started is a better reason ...