I figured 14 was the newer version, but I really wanted to be sure. Didn't know about the WaW connection.

Thank you very much for the clarification.

Solid point, thank you.

Simple question: What is the recommended 1939 scenario?
As Axis as it's the aggressor.

I have the Community Pack DLC so there is the original 1939 vanilla, 653H, A3R 1939 v1.2 (I'm not betting on this one, but who knows), and Fall Weiss II 20. Plus the 1938 scenario. And of course the ones off the ...

Small question, which is the later version, this one (14) or the Fall Weiss II 20 from the community Pack DLC?
I suppose another question is whether they are even the same thing at all?

On the one hand it says 20 in the Community Pack, so that MIGHT be version 20... or version 2.0.
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Next up: Operation Typhoon.

<t> I understand your point, and it has merit, but what I've found is that in '41 any corps can end up in hard fighting. That can change as time goes by, but in the beginning you have to be prepared for that big fight to be anywhere. And once the Soviets start pushing back you will need that ...

Maybe I should change the name of the thread to "I suck... less"?

<r> So then, I had promised a list of the lessons I have learned.<br/>
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Few if any of these are entirely my own invention, most are suggestions from other helpful members of the forum, possibly modified by me.<br/>
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<r> And here is a high level shot of the map at the end of the game on Turn 18 with FoW off.<br/>
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<r> AND THAT'S THE BALL GAME!<br/>
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Got a little hairy toward the last few turns, for a minute wasn't sure I could take Dnepropetvosk, but got in there on turn 16 which sealed the deal. I didn't take Kharkov as the defenders had been eating their spinach and were suddenly supermen despite ...

I think if I win this one I'll post the page of things I figured out, I do most of them automatically now, but they were lessons that were learned the hard way.
But want to make sure I can actually *win* a scenario before posting them, otherwise they don't necessarily mean a damn thing.

<t> Hunh. Glad I've been of some help.<br/>
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Figured I'd give an update as I haven't posted for a while.<br/>
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I finally got tired of Road to Leningrad after that last oh so close game, and switched to Destruction of the SouthWest Front. I've been taking it easy, only doing a turn or ...

<t> I find many WW2 games prefer to use WW2 terms, names, flags, symbols, etc. Rumania is an example of that, although that is the spelling the Americans used. The French and British use Roumania (why pick one vowel when you can use both!?) <br/>
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When modern words/ things are used in a ...

<t> If they are just air commands, not actual air-groups, you may just need to assign an air-group to them and they will reappear on the map.<br/>
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If they aren't available for that, they may have been dissolved entirely. The units that were assigned to them may be either assigned to a higher ...

<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: jlbhung<br/>
It is a high-risk high-return gamble. I heard that someone successful took Leningrad after 4 attacks using 2 Corps.
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Probably have to be with high CPP and in good shape, not the battered to hell units I end up with by ...

<t> It makes sense if you think like a computer. If everything has to flow down through the levels of HQ, then having the AGs and Armies at the same level as the OKH (0) makes them all the same priority. Nothing flows from OKH to the AGs because they are the same, so no reason to move. Because of ...

<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: jlbhung<br/>
Alternatively, depending on when you take Oranienbaum (or you may just ignore this 100 points), if time allows you may try a gamble on Leningrad (this is +1000 points for Ger and -500 for Sov) using 3 Corps.
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<t> This is only for the North in Road to Leningrad, but I've been not particularly fancy in the last few games and gotten good numbers.<br/>
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In my last run I got 742 on the ground, for a total 774 VVS aircraft destroyed on the first turn. <br/>
Typically only lose around 30 aircraft ...

<r> Oh yes, and I did capture Vadai as well.<br/>
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But... i still ended up a dollar short.<br/>
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Didn't help I wasn't paying attention one turn and let a bunch of bombers get killed (99 in one turn) so that was a bunch of free points for the Soviets.<br/>
Looks like I was flying ...

<r> So... anyway... things progress much more slowly after this, I get close, but not close enough. At the end of the game I have captured Oranienbaum (through brute force with two corps ftom 18th Army hitting it) and get one hex away from Shlisselburg but can't take it.<br/>
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