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So when did you change the title of the thread and remove the "Terrible Scenario" comment. So lets not leave it at that. I think it was still up as of this morning. That seems to be a pretty text book example of getting bent out of shape ...

<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: thewood1<br/>
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Its mostly playing through all the tutorials and smaller scenarios, as well as not getting bent out of shape because the scenario beat you.
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To be clear, I'm not bent out of shape. I'm not disparaging the game. CMO is ...

<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: thewood1<br/>
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This what I talked about in the other sub complaint thread. Players just get impatient. I actually don't play a lot of ASW-focused scenarios because I can't stand staring at the screen. If there is one type of scenario that you can't cut ...

<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: dcpollay<br/>
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Why are you trying to maneuver into the ship's baffles? Is it a specific requirement of the scenario? A far better shot is to get into position ahead of the target and shoot so the ship is driving into the torpedo rather than away.
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<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: thewood1<br/>
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Every sub in the db has listed sonar profiles at various aspects for different sonar frequencies. Thats the first thing I check out in a scenario with subs.<e>[/quote]</e></QUOTE>
Yes, that's one of the things I highlighted. How is a bunch of ...

<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: thewood1<br/>
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A real skipper just has other people doing the guess work for them. We probably have as much if not more info and better comms than they do. We have a HUGE advantage of immediate comms with the land unit to help set up the ambush. We also have ...

<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: thewood1<br/>
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Not sure what to say. I never even went into the ships baffles. The ship came at me on a course a few miles off the center of the channel just as I expected. I made a bunch of mistakes and still got through it on one try. There is no way you ...

<r> Here's the thing. <br/>
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To begin with, the initial estimation can very well be completely off because the frigate changes course (from 250-ish to 210-ish) at some point beyond the spy's visual range and beyond where it can move to follow it.<br/>
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When you do spot him on passives ...

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"But that merely elevates the sub from "surveillance platform" to "suicide striker".<br/>
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From where I'm standing, assuming a more reasonable scenario, the only chance a torpedo-only submarine has of surviving its own attack on a ...

<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: .Sirius<br/>
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War is never on equal terms, you work with what you have[8D]
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Sure, but that's beside the point.<br/>
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How is this scenario sensible, interesting or even interactive? Let alone as a tutorial "exam ...

<t> So you have the most basic diesel submarine to intercept a frigate in shallow-ish waters (one with an ASW helo, to boot). But you can't really get to the shallows before the frigate is upon you.<br/>
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You have minimal tools, essentially 1960-grade 35-knot torpedoes in a 1999 scenario ...

<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: thewood1<br/>
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As the test I posted shows, the sub detects the pinging ship many times further away than the ship detects the sub. If the scenario is set with reasonable positioning, proper ROEs, and a good understanding of how subs can hide, subs are a hard ...

<t> I read the whole thread and, while being far less knowledgeable than some (or most) of the commenters, I have some thoughts.<br/>
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Firstly, there's a lot that can be construed as the obsolescence of torpedoes (versus modern surface warships) more than submarines, given their short range ...

<r> WW2-themed music doesn't always fit very well with the Cold War or modern period, but I suppose it's up to personal preference.<br/>
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There's a number of options if you look into game or movie soundtracks. There's the music of The Hunt for the Red October (for Soviet flavour), or Crimson ...

Awesome work!

I figure this will roll out on Steam once the candidate's locked in as the actual release?

I'm used to stylized icons ever since I started playing the original Harpoon as a kid.

I can understand NTDS just fine, but I suppose the stylized variants help imagination a bit, to picture what's going on beyond the sterile map view.

<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: Meroka37<br/>
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A visual AAR I did some time ago, similar outcome as you describe<br/>
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<r> Some commentary ahead on the Stand Up (2011) scenario. Spoilers too, so don't read further if you haven't played it and mean to at some point. Went with the presumably infrequently picked Argentinian side, and I'm not sure the scenario's working correctly. Here's what I did.<br/>
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1) For ...

<t> Great work, everyone involved! The DB images certainly look more professional now. Not to mention JPG (and 7z) compression is more sensible and the whole package's faster to download and takes up 708 MB instead of over 2 GB.<br/>
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I have noticed, however, that in the case of certain items ...

<r> All that said, when it comes to torpedo evasion, is CMANO really realistic?<br/>
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Subs don't seem to use decoys too often (it's automatic-only, as far as I know), and you'd think leaving a couple as you dash up and down the layer should give you <I><s>[i]</s>some<e>[/i]</e></I> chance of ...