<t> I think putting too great an emphasis on breaking the pact with the USSR is a bad idea, at least in 40 and 41. <br/>
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If Germany seems to not be going for a 41 Barbarossa (by sending forces to Africa, building trs, amph, navs, etc), Russia should at the very least secure the Middle east ...

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: darune<br/>
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However I think there should also/still be a mechanic that prevents germany from a big lend-lease to italy if it wants to do the 41 barb.<br/>
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The chit and pact rules are good for that. Just the garrison should be changed so USSR, by ...

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: ullern<br/>
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Actually. One of the cases I calculated in post 281 was Classic + PiF only + City Based Volunteers (so no SIF, no Mech in Flames Gar, no divs or artillery). But I still assumed the USSR DOWed Italy and produced MIL. With these options the ...

<t> Btw, I you want to see what can happen when Russia gets really entangled vs Japan in 1940 in the face of a 1941 barbarossa, you may search the mwif forums for my games vs Tobias Vinterheimer from this spring. I've probably never played any easier games than those two, and Tobias has been a con ...

<t> Breunor: <br/>
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I think your argument against "stuffing" being a weak strategy vs a 1942 barb is very much flawed. (You even write that when stuffing, you will not build, mech....)<br/>
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In fact, when preparing to stuff the border, I would build more or less exactly the same units ...

<t> Breunor<br/>
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I've only been to the Eurowifcon once, and that was this year. On that con, I not a lot of people were doing 1941 barbs. Now, this could eier be because they are afraid to get stuffed (in which case I would consider stuffing to be an issue), or it could just be because they ...

<t> One question about facist tide: Does anyone know whether off map factories count as "printed" factories for the purpose of conquering Russia? This is a rather important part of game balance for the facist tide scenario, since taking out all printed factories on the european map is not all that ...

<t> Hi, Breunor, and welcome to the forum.<br/>
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You may wish to read the entire thread, because all your arguments have already come up. If you go to the yahoo groups called wifdiscussion, you will find even more material on the issue, based solely on the boardgame.<br/>
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I'll give ...

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets<br/>
Some of this analysis is moot in MWIF. The MWIF chit draws are from an infinite pool (using a probability distribution), so there is no interaction between the Nazi-Soviet pact and US Entry as far as chits are concerned.
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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: lavisj<br/>
And in my mind those gamey tricks are fair game to cancel the effects of the stuff rule, which I consider highly unrealistic.<br/>
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I agree with the principle that it is fair to use gamey tactics in response to ...

<t> Nothing forces the US to focus their pre war production on Japan in the Global War campaign. In fact, at this year's eurowifcon, the US player at my table did quite the opposite, and focused most of his builds vs Germany (me), which was quite a lot, since he took option 34 in M/J 41, and was at ...

<r> As most of you are probably aware of, this topic was already discussed at length in the yahoo forums:<br/>
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<URL url="http://games.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/wifdiscussion/message/102438"><LINK_TEXT text="http://games.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group ... age/102438">http://games.dir.groups ...

<t> lavisj: 120 bp is not more than the axis can kill, especially if you include what they can capture, and even more so if Russia starts at the border with Germany. Besides, the allies know what kind of chits are in the US pools. If they are are not very high, it will cost less than 3 turns of US ...

<t> Ullern: The reason I care about this optional, is that I know that many people are using it. Personally, I don't see the need for it, but I know that many of my opponents will want to use it.<br/>
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This is why I want to have if work in a sensible manner, otherwise, the option can make it ...

Jerome: Russia's counter to Japan's aggression, is to DOW Italy, which can be worth it if it goes that far.

Cheers
Hakon

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>. Now I'll have too agree on that. <br/>
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I think you got a lot of arguments wrong. <br/>
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The only thing that can prevent an extensive abuse by any such rule is to give both players the power to stop the war. That means the rule needs to gives the victor a ...

<r> Hi, Ullern, it appears that you do not understand my calculation. I'll try to explain the point's you're not getting in some more detail:<br/>
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The criterium for breaking the garrison is, as you write, as follows:<br/>
2 < Sum(German chits + German forces)/sum(Russian chits + russian ...

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: Froonp<br/>
Hakon, you're an optimizing player, and you got rid of that parameter by saying that you focus on side victory, but while cooperation and side victory are important elements of the game, each country can win including Italy / Japan, and I as an ...

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<QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: Froonp<br/>
so unless you play the game with 2 or 3 players, the German and Italian player should <B><s>[b]</s>always be separate<e>[/b]</e></B>, and each one have its own objective number to reach.
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Interestingly enough, Super ...

<r> <QUOTE><s>[quote]</s>ORIGINAL: Froonp<br/>
Your reasoning is not fair.
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Well, you didn't specifically mention which of the 4 aspects of Super Balbo you considered unfair. If it's 1) or 2), ie Italy being on the Eastern Front in the first place, I think this is a ...