Random withdrawals

[morvael]

What are the random withdrawals, happening all the time in the 44 Campaign? I mean, units are not marked as withdrawing and they disappear randomly, leaving holes in my lines. If I would know they would withdraw I would look for other units to fill the gap as in 41 Campaign. In the log it looks like this:

LIII Corps is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 0
LIII Corps WITHDRAWS (men 5020, guns 0, afv 0)

or

257th Infantry Division is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 0
79th Infantry Division is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 0
79th Infantry Division WITHDRAWS (men 10068, guns 138, afv 8)

I also wonder why 257th doesn't have this WITHDRAWS event, usually they come in pairs.

[Helpless]

It doesn't sound right. Can you attach a save? thanks.

[morvael]

Save from German turn when LIII Corps was still on map with no indication of withdrawal (either in the withdrawal window, in the unit tooltip or in the highlight). The Corps is located in Chelm X 49 Y 75.

[morvael]

Save from Soviet AI turn 17 (after that turn the Corps was removed in German logistics phase for turn 18).

[morvael]

Save from German turn 18 when the Corps is missing, with attached log.

What is strange is that withdrawal window on turn 17 was saying that 14th Panzer Division will be withdrawn on turn 18, yet it wasn't highlighed red and without withdrawing status, yet the unit tooltip was saying it will withdraw (similar to the bug with 2nd Panzer Army). The division is located in Rumania, X 62 Y 105.

I guess maybe some id's are mismatched or something and wrong units withdraw in place of other units.

[Helpless]

I think this a data problem of 1944 scenario. Somehow withdrawal data is not seeded. it will have quite bad consequences with just released path. Will ask to fix the data. Thanks for the report.

[morvael]

How bad are those consequences, shall I stay with .16 in this game?

[Helpless]

How bad are those consequences, shall I stay with .16 in this game?

This is not code dependent. I hope Trey will fix and post 1944 GC soon. Unfortunately it will require a restart.

[morvael]

Oh, yes something is really borked. Now, my first turn using .22 and I got this in the log (now is turn 24):

914th Gun Battalion is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 16
123rd Construction Battalion is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 22
IX Corps is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 13
506th Howitzer Battalion is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 13
151st Gun Battalion is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 4
934th Gun Battalion is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 14
190th Stug Brigade is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 8
78th Sturm Infantry Division is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 8
337th Infantry Division is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 10
134th Infantry Division is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 8
665th Panzerjager Battalion is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 9
129th Infantry Division is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 27
II/69th Gun Battalion is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 18
1st Hun. Hussar Division is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 12
II Hun. Corps is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 8
277th Stug Brigade is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 13
88th Infantry Division is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 7
291st Infantry Division is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 8
101st Howitzer Battalion is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 21
II/818th Howitzer Battalion is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 9
14th Panzer Division is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 18
754th Pioneer Battalion is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 5
I/127th Artillery Battalion is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 8
LII Corps is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 22
4th Mountain Division is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 21
161st (Detachment A) Infantry Division is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 29
547th Volksgrenadier Division is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 15
548th Volksgrenadier Division is scheduled to WITHDRAW on turn 22
914th Gun Battalion WITHDRAWS (men 404, guns 13, afv 0)
815th Howitzer Battalion WITHDRAWS (men 388, guns 9, afv 0)
123rd Construction Battalion WITHDRAWS (men 750, guns 0, afv 0)
IX Corps WITHDRAWS (men 5000, guns 0, afv 0)
506th Howitzer Battalion WITHDRAWS (men 564, guns 12, afv 0)
151st Gun Battalion WITHDRAWS (men 384, guns 13, afv 0)
934th Gun Battalion WITHDRAWS (men 384, guns 13, afv 0)
190th Stug Brigade WITHDRAWS (men 1045, guns 0, afv 38)
665th Panzerjager Battalion WITHDRAWS (men 383, guns 37, afv 0)
II/69th Gun Battalion WITHDRAWS (men 384, guns 13, afv 0)
1st Hun. Hussar Division WITHDRAWS (men 13873, guns 159, afv 72)
II Hun. Corps WITHDRAWS (men 5020, guns 0, afv 0)
277th Stug Brigade WITHDRAWS (men 1037, guns 0, afv 36)
291st Infantry Division WITHDRAWS (men 9821, guns 161, afv 2)
101st Howitzer Battalion WITHDRAWS (men 556, guns 13, afv 0)
II/818th Howitzer Battalion WITHDRAWS (men 396, guns 12, afv 0)
754th Pioneer Battalion WITHDRAWS (men 790, guns 0, afv 0)
I/127th Artillery Battalion WITHDRAWS (men 520, guns 13, afv 0)
LII Corps WITHDRAWS (men 5020, guns 0, afv 0)
548th Volksgrenadier Division WITHDRAWS (men 9775, guns 171, afv 15)

...but now finally it seems like he cleared up old broken withdrawals and now units are properly highlighting - those that should (like 161st (Detachment A) Infantry Division and 129th Infantry Division). Wasn't it really a problem in the code?

[Helpless]

Wasn't it really a problem in the code?

No

[morvael]

Is this connected to the above problem?

What is funny is that the 3rd SS Panzer Division wasn't renamed. Perhaps some other unit was, but not this one.

[Helpless]

It looks like something else.

[morvael]

I had this before as well, I thought it was because of those mismatched withdrawals, which said one unit will withdraw but removed another. A new game should be played out to see if this bug would reappear.

I find it funny that a motorized brigade has to update to 43 panzergrenadier division before it can update to 44 and 45 TOEs, when it's already 1945. I had one update in March '45. Suddenly I got a very strong division...

edit:

This division that was renamed arrived on turn 42:
710th Static Division ARRIVED at 1,59 (men 10143, guns 95, afv 0)
and it probably updated to 45 Infantry Division on turn 45, then was renamed as they usually do. Somehow that was missing from the log.