Barge and PT boat respawing

[Bradley7735]

Does anyone know if barges and PT-boats respond after 90 days like they did in UV? Or, once you lose them, they're gone for good?

I don't care one way or the other, but I need to know so that I can use them best (if they respond, I won't care so much if they take high losses.)

Thanks, Brad

[Nikademus]

dont believe so.

You "build" them again using supply from a transport TF

[Damien Thorn]

ORIGINAL: Bradley7735

Does anyone know if barges and PT-boats respond after 90 days like they did in UV?

That's news to me. I didn't know they respawned in UV. Are you sure about that?
They don't respawn in Witp. The only ships that respawn in WitP are MSW and (for US) CA (which may come back as a CA or a CL) and the six original pre-war CV (which come baxk as Essex CV).

[tsimmonds]

ORIGINAL: Damien Thorn

ORIGINAL: Bradley7735

Does anyone know if barges and PT-boats respond after 90 days like they did in UV?

That's news to me. I didn't know they respawned in UV. Are you sure about that?
They don't respawn in Witp. The only ships that respawn in WitP are MSW and (for US) CA (which may come back as a CA or a CL) and the six original pre-war CV (which come baxk as Essex CV).

In UV they did not "respawn" (you'd think the english language surely would have a better word than this for us to use), they "became available." They still had to be built by expending supplies that had been laded in Truk/Noumea/Brisbane.

[pad152]

The only ships that respawn are Allied/Japanese "MSW's", and USN "CA's".

[Apollo11]

Hi all,

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

dont believe so.

You "build" them again using supply from a transport TF

Steve, I asked Raymond this few days ago and he thinks that there is no limit to number of AGs for Japan and PTs, LCxs for US.

Does it really means that we can create hundreads and thousands of them with enough supply?


Leo "Apollo11"

[Damien Thorn]

ORIGINAL: Apollo11
Steve, I asked Raymond this few days ago and he thinks that there is no limit to number of AGs for Japan and PTs, LCxs for US.

Does it really means that we can create hundreads and thousands of them with enough supply?


Leo "Apollo11"

Why would they list indivual ships in the database then if they can be created Generically?

[Mr.Frag]

I have never understood this ... I assume there are a finite number of slots and they get reused if you take losses.

[Bradley7735]

Ok, I don't know how it works in WITP, but this is how it works in UV

Lets say that japan gets 100 barges ever. Not all at once, but over time they become available. Now lets say it's June 43 and Japan has all 100 barges on the map. They haven't lost any barges to anything. Now, some US sub surfaces and shells one barge. It sinks. Now Japan has 99 barges. In 90 days Japan will have one barge show up as available.

I know this because when I played the US, I activated all barges then sat them in Noumea for a loooong time. Then I started using them in backwater bases. a couple of them sank to scout planes. then I stopped using them for some reason. After 90 days, I had 2 show up as available. Then I watched the process closer to confirm what I thought was happening.

So my question is will barges and PT's become available 90 days after you sink them (limitless supply, but no more active at one time than the number of slots in the dbase)

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: Bradley7735

Does anyone know if barges and PT-boats respond after 90 days like they did in UV? Or, once you lose them, they're gone for good?

I don't care one way or the other, but I need to know so that I can use them best (if they respond, I won't care so much if they take high losses.)

Thanks, Brad

Gawd, I hope not. I've created a PT TF since losing a few and it has not been reused, but I seem to remember seeing AGs do this in UV. Time will tell.

[UncleBuck]

Oh well that is fine if that is the case. The AG's don't carry much and PT's are point defense. I did like setting up mine fields for the poor AG's though. [:D] I did it to PT's as well. But AG's were more fun cause you could scout the route the took 'tween bases and leave presents for them in Blue water with subs. I don't think I ever saw a PT or AG survive a close encounter with a mine.

[AmiralLaurent]

Don't know about WITP but I have played IJN a lot in 1943 in PBEM and can sure say something about UV.

There a limited nulber of barges in the database (80-100), that are built by using supplies. When they are sunk, they are available some time later.I'm not sure about the delay. In one gale that is currently on 5 Sep 1943 and where barges operate from February 1943 under enemy plane range, I lost 355 until now and had about 20-40 at a time.

The funny thing is that they are really recreated (by using again supplies) in the exact state of their sinking, with damage corrected: same fuel state and same cargo (supplies and fuel). My AG never carry troops, except one or two desesperate rescue missions in bad weather during the entire game and none were lost while doing so.

On the other hand, I tried once to see what happens if I scuttle a barge. It ends on the sunk ship list and gives 2 VP to the USN player. So never scuttle them in UV.

[Nikademus]

ORIGINAL: Apollo11

Steve, I asked Raymond this few days ago and he thinks that there is no limit to number of AGs for Japan and PTs, LCxs for US.

Does it really means that we can create hundreads and thousands of them with enough supply?


Leo "Apollo11"

no, there's a limit. Not sure what it is but there's a limit. I'd hate to see what impact 'thousands' of PT's would have..... [X(]

[freeboy]

picture the signing of the surrender not on the deck of the might Battleship, but on our new hero the lowly, not, pt boats.. with thousands behind them in port

fyi, in my against the ia as us, my pt in philipines got shreaded at night against jap dds

[Apollo11]

Hi all,

ORIGINAL: Damien Thorn

ORIGINAL: Apollo11
Steve, I asked Raymond this few days ago and he thinks that there is no limit to number of AGs for Japan and PTs, LCxs for US.

Does it really means that we can create hundreads and thousands of them with enough supply?


Leo "Apollo11"

Why would they list indivual ships in the database then if they can be created Generically?

Excellent point!

BTW, anyone knows how many slots are there for those kinds of ships?


Leo "Apollo11"

[Twotribes]

By the way Australian CA get replaced if sunk also.

[Apollo11]

Hi all,

Another shameless BUMP... [;)]


Leo "Apollo11"