What we need
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RE: What we need
Hi,
I've always felt that the island of Helgoland was missing. AFAIK there was a radar installation there.
I've always felt that the island of Helgoland was missing. AFAIK there was a radar installation there.

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RE: What we need
Hmmm
In 1947, British occupation authorities, after evacuating the islanders (mostly fishermen), blew up the fortifications and part of the island in one of the largest known nonatomic blasts. The island was largely rebuilt after British occupation forces returned it to West Germany in 1952. It is now a popular tourist resort and a center for scientific research, particularly ornithology.
we can ask, JC alway said not all the land mass was were it was suppost to be, and a Radar site there would make a mess out of some of the north sea bomb routes
In 1947, British occupation authorities, after evacuating the islanders (mostly fishermen), blew up the fortifications and part of the island in one of the largest known nonatomic blasts. The island was largely rebuilt after British occupation forces returned it to West Germany in 1952. It is now a popular tourist resort and a center for scientific research, particularly ornithology.
we can ask, JC alway said not all the land mass was were it was suppost to be, and a Radar site there would make a mess out of some of the north sea bomb routes

RE: What we need
but on the flip side - it suits your style of play, HS, as it draws up the bad guy more often...
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HEHEHE
you know mate, THAT was the first thing I thought of when I seen where it would be placed
but he has a point, it is part of the land mass that is missing and should be in the game, and it was used by the GE as a Radar base
you know mate, THAT was the first thing I thought of when I seen where it would be placed
but he has a point, it is part of the land mass that is missing and should be in the game, and it was used by the GE as a Radar base

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RE: What we need
As well as radar Helgoland also had an A/F. Original base of Jasta. Helgoland (which later became 11/JG11). As of 17Aug43 it was based on the island.
I remember bringing this point up with JC a while back and he said that he would like to revamp the whole map and get in all the Ost and Nord-friesische Inseln.
von Shagmeister
I remember bringing this point up with JC a while back and he said that he would like to revamp the whole map and get in all the Ost and Nord-friesische Inseln.
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RE: What we need
Link to wartime picture of Helgoland
Have linked to an RAF wartime photo of Helgoland / Heligoland (former is German spelling, latter British). Even from this distance, very clear just how crowded it was with military installations.
Have linked to an RAF wartime photo of Helgoland / Heligoland (former is German spelling, latter British). Even from this distance, very clear just how crowded it was with military installations.
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I remember bringing this point up with JC a while back and he said that he would like to revamp the whole map and get in all the Ost and Nord-friesische Inseln.
well, okay
I know two of them words
but I agree
yea, JC wanted to redo the map if he could, how much, I am not sure, as it is also Loc's over top of the map

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Odd that the Brits would go to that much trouble to destroy the obsolecent fortifications of a defeated enemy in a dawining nuclear age.... [&:]
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I think it was more a case of how to get rid of massive quantities of captured munitions - how better than putting it on an island which has annoyed the Royal Navy in two world wars, lighting blue touchpaper, and retiring swiftly...
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RE: What we need
Now, a photo during or after the bang, for comparison would be interesting.


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RE: What we need
It was also bombed by Lanc B1 specials. I forget who (probably 617) dropped Tallboys or Grandslam on it in 1945. 2 days raids. I have lent my book out so I cannot check the details, but it has some photos of some large craters caused by the bombs,
Then, after the war, it was indedd blown up. Late in his career, my Dad met one of the explosive experts who did the job!
Then, after the war, it was indedd blown up. Late in his career, my Dad met one of the explosive experts who did the job!
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But i cant explore blown up craters!!!!!!
those darn Brits!!!!
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those darn Brits!!!!
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RE: What we need
Would it be possible to expand the current roster sizes (current max is 48 pilots, sometimes you get up to 54 pilots when you start a new campaign) in 8th AAF fighter groups to match the historical ones?
RE: What we need
What would be very helpful would be a highlight button for the allies to see which of the airfields you have recently recced highlighted for the presence of German planes. It suck to have to run my mouse over all 125 airfields that got recced the day before to find out which one has german planes.
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just use list of targets and let it sort by the day last photographed [X(][:D]
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In the after action reports the destroyed aircraft are estimates. What would be nice to see would be an estimate of aircraft destroyed on the ground during AF attacks.
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Not sure if its been mentioned here or not but will the new BTR have the ability to target Power/Oil targets delayed like in USAAF? The programming should kinda already be there since V weapon lauching sites aren't listed at start & become available after some time. This may keep the Allies from getting a real early knockout punch [:(] so as to maintain as long game as possible for your viewing pleasure [:D]
RE: What we need
Players generally don't like to have their control taken away. We already have Avalanche, Overlord, Upens and Vpens to distract our goals.
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Isnt that what the CBO was to the heads of the respective bomber commands, nothing but a series of distractions away from their Douhet theories of air power
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And another thing I wouldnt mind seeing at least for the Allies is a restriction of what aircraft can be changed to.
For instance my whole Med Air Command is flying P38Gs and the 2TAF is flying P51Bs. Whatever the merits of this arrangement are, this would simply not happen as each of the Allies would have thier own national interests at heart.
For the Axis this wouldnt be a problem as the Germans could generally get their way anyways
For instance my whole Med Air Command is flying P38Gs and the 2TAF is flying P51Bs. Whatever the merits of this arrangement are, this would simply not happen as each of the Allies would have thier own national interests at heart.
For the Axis this wouldnt be a problem as the Germans could generally get their way anyways




