12.04 extremely low fighter interception

[eskuche]

Intercept vs. airfield and ground bombing I don't think is working correctly. See attached picture: I was bombed 7 times in these hexes, and only up to 4 planes defended. Interception setting wasn't super high at 80%, but against over a hundred planes there should be more than a tenth of a gruppe coming out to play.

[joelmar]

The same happened to me. Airbase with 120 fighters completely fresh, with its flkps HQ in the same hex, interception settings at 150.

4 combat units were bombed twice within 5 hexes of the airbase and only a fraction of the interception occurred, by example 3 fighters against 72, 1 against 60, 1 against 70.

[Bozo_the_Clown]

What I don't see is the supply situation of your airbases at the end of your turn.

[eskuche]

Railhead is at Pskov.

[56ajax]

So the Luftwaffe being bombed into oblivion is not just my standard incompetence??

[Telemecus]

ORIGINAL: 56ajax

So the Luftwaffe being bombed into oblivion is not just my standard incompetence??

Hey when it comes to air matters you are my hero!

I think this does look like something has changed in the newest patches though.

[tyronec]

I did a test. Loaded up RtL and adjusted Axis Intercept. Then hit F12 and did some Soviet airbase bombing.

At Intercept 25% getting between 1:4 to 1:10 Intercepting Fighters to Attackers.
At 75% getting around 1:4
At 100% getting around 1:3 to 1:4
At 200% getting around 1:2 to 1:3.
Usually more fighters if if was their own air base.

Also quite a few 0 or almost 0 intercepts, these two were at 200% and overall the Soviets were doing 6 airfield bombings in total.
No spam recon or ground attack.

[eskuche]

Did you ever get more than 4 planes? Seems like all axis intercept is coded as recon intercept.

[tyronec]

Did you ever get more than 4 planes? Seems like all axis intercept is coded as recon intercept.

Yes, most of the time.
Maybe I didn't explain my post in enough detail. If the ratio was for example 1:4 and 100 Soviets were attacking then around 25 Interceptors.

[redrum68]

@eskuche - I've seen more than 4 planes. I tend to see 10-20 fighters intercept most frequently but often against 50+ soviet fighters and 100+ soviet bombers. And there are potentially 100+ german fighters available to intercept.

[Nekronion]

Same problem here, unless you crank up intercept to very high levels the amount of fighters actually flying is way to small.

[joelmar]

I really hope this will be put on the fix list and taken care soon because its a problem that has many very annoying consequences for German play.

[morvael]

I remember when I started playing the tip was to use interception ratio 200% or higher. Maybe those ratios really need a rework so it would be clear what is their meaning.
The problem with too high interception ratio is that it will allow to exhaust interceptor assets quickly.

[eskuche]

He lives! Hope everything is ok. And thanks for 12.05.

I think a clarification is needed at a minimum. Tiring out can be managed with range and %fly settings. But whether 100% interception is meeting bombers or fighters or some ratio of such 1:1 or at a lower ratio should be described.

Also what does air rating do here? I’ve noticed all 40 bombers in a gruppe flying ground support with nowhere near 100% air check but rarely a full gruppe for interception.

[joelmar]

The problem happens with airbases full of completely fresh fighters groups, with anywhere between 90% and 150% interception settings and in repetition.

[Richard III]

ORIGINAL: joelmar

The problem happens with airbases full of completely fresh fighters groups, with anywhere between 90% and 150% interception settings and in repetition.

Coming back to the Game and I wonder if this is with PBEM or VS AI play ?

[joelmar]

@Richard III

Coming back to the Game and I wonder if this is with PBEM or VS AI play ?

PBEM

[morvael]

Found the bug. Intercepts were not calling base resupply routine, that's why there was not enough to launch more aircraft (minimum of resources were granted by other routine, so some flew, but not all).

[eskuche]

[8D]

[joelmar]

Is it possible then that it was affecting more airbases far from their city depots? It would explain some occurences I had yesterday. Anyway, thank you Morvael, really appreciated. [:)]