I'll be blunt about WITW and my views on it

Gary Grigsby’s War in the West 1943-45 is the most ambitious and detailed computer wargame on the Western Front of World War II ever made. Starting with the Summer 1943 invasions of Sicily and Italy and proceeding through the invasions of France and the drive into Germany, War in the West brings you all the Allied campaigns in Western Europe and the capability to re-fight the Western Front according to your plan.

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That would be interesting to have the option of trying let's say return to Greece in 1943, try "fantasy" stuff. Return to Narvik, cut the iron ore. Invasion in Yougoslavia (some partisans could help).

Yougoslavia is near Hungary, Austria, even Germany itself. I think a german would not like seeing the allies there.

It is not feasible in the scope of the actual WitW, but maybe if there are expensions or a WitW2.

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That would be interesting to have the option of trying let's say return to Greece in 1943, try "fantasy" stuff. Return to Narvik, cut the iron ore. Invasion in Yougoslavia (some partisans could help).
Yougoslavia is near Hungary, Austria, even Germany itself. I think a german would not like seeing the allies there.
It is not feasible in the scope of the actual WitW, but maybe if there are expensions or a WitW2.

The areas you mentioned are all 'off map' in WitW. Yugoslavia, etc. garrisons are actually part of the 'East Front Box'. The game production engine abstracts 'resources' as a generic commodity.


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I know Seminole.
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I know Seminole.

I assume many reading this forum/thread for insight into the game may not.
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What he said +1

As a new player myself in such a niche market opinions count as there is far too little coverage. Timotheus has his opinion and he's entitled to it. He raises the classic old chestnut of a question scripted v sandbox. 2by3 are dammed if they do and damned if they don't. Make it too historical and its not flexible enough, make it flexible and its not historical enough.

Isn't there an editor in there somewhere?

This was meant to be a +1 in support of Warspite's argument BTW hehe
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ORIGINAL: wadortch

There are now two threads in the WITW Forum started by people who keep explaining why they don't want to buy the game. Neither of them have played it. So we are reading (and bless you many people are taking the time to respond to them point by point but to what end I ask)something like a bad movie review by people who have not seen the film. Or, not only have I not seen the film, but here's how I would remake it if I did. Whew.

I ask the malcontents what the heck is their purpose in taking up air time with this kind of thing?


It's the internet. Trolls breed here.
As a guy who trolled to my detriment about War in the East when it first came out (and some time thereafter), some of the purpose is to loudly cry out for balance/design changes.

Part of it is actually to hear people who have more rational heads, who will say, "Here, here, now wait a minute and listen where you're wrong." As you say, blessings to those folk.

War in the East is better than ever. I was an early adopter of that title, and I was a bit dissatisfied with how long some changes took to implement. I will pick up War in the West at some point, but I figured it would have growing pains as its predecessor did, which I wished to avoid. Plus I'm still loving War in the East.

I get the OP's rant. He should focus a little more on the part where he calls himself an idiot, and stop himself before he does something REALLY unfortunate. Stick with War in the West; make some friends; play some friendly games; you will get to be a part of the future improvements. Looking back at my experience with War in the East, my advice to you is to simmer down and be a part of the constructive group of players, keep playing and playing until you start to master things.

If you want more freedom, look to Hearts of Iron 3; it might be exactly what you're looking for.

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Paradox has the same issues over there as here lol. So no one is safe [:(]

When they announced there will be no NATO counters used in HOI IV, you would not believe the number of threads locked because of things like this thread going off the rails. Which this thread has not and hopefully will not. And HOI IV is not even released yet [X(]. So no one is playing the game at all and people are complaining [8|]

So you really cannot win [:(]
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To anyone that thinks they could do a better job in designing and publishing a game, please feel free to try and let us know how people behave on YOUR forums lol.
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No NATO counters!?!
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This is the best game ever made of a realistic simulation of the WII in a PC, for others sandbox games please choose then not this one.
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