Game development and Design UI - priority

[wbonx]

Is it correct that there is no one working on the title anymore and that the dev is focusing on a new title?

Plenty of people wants to know.

The game is great, too bad no one is even caring about implementing the results of the last poll or taking care of the many bugs published here.

[Zanotirn]

https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=5084806

Vic is focusing on another title, yes, however that is until its release on November 18th.

[Catasteroid]

Shadow Empire support will continue very soon once the developer has released another project of his in just over a week, in the mean time (not to toot on one's own trumpet too much) you can sample the smattering of gameplay mods I've made, and will continue to make for the foreseeable future.

[wbonx]

Let's hope it is not going to be as usual... other title deadline postponed 2 or 3 times... at the end too much time has passed for the dev to remember the old code and work on it.

It would have been better to polish shadow empire and only then start working on something else.

[Clux]

ORIGINAL: wbonx

Let's hope it is not going to be as usual... other title deadline postponed 2 or 3 times... at the end too much time has passed for the dev to remember the old code and work on it.

It would have been better to polish shadow empire and only then start working on something else.

Remember than Shadow Empire was a "Side work" for more than 5 years, imagine what other gems we could lose if he stops doing it?

[mroyer]

I, of course, have no idea what Vic's business model is, but I'm pretty sure free upgrades and patches aren't keeping the lights on. I'm surprised at how much work he's done on SE gratis so far. Fixing bugs for free is one thing and expected, but adding entirely new features (aliens, air forces, new world types, bunkers, and so on...) is quite another.

I would be happy to pay for significant feature-enhancements and game-improvements if it would give Vic financial freedom to focus on Shadow Empire.

-Mark R.

[wbonx]

ORIGINAL: Clux

Remember than Shadow Empire was a "Side work" for more than 5 years, imagine what other gems we could lose if he stops doing it?

Side work? Didn't know the story, it looked to me like this was a commission from a publisher, isn't it?

True, game is great, I'm just disappointed that major problems, i.e. the Plane creation GUI, very simple to correct, are still left half done.
Same for a couple of major bugs.

For the rest, done this, the game could be considered completed and he could actually start working on a DLC to get a bit more money or on the sequel.

[Vic]

ORIGINAL: Clux

Same for a couple of major bugs.

Will soon have time again for support work for SE.

Could you elaborate a bit on those major bugs ?

Please do so by opening a new thread in tech support

Would be much appreciated!

best wishes,
Vic

[wbonx]

ORIGINAL: Vic

Could you elaborate a bit on those major bugs ?


best wishes,
Vic

Great, the game is really a gem and deserves some attention.

I do remember the screen not refreshing sometime when zooming in and out and something else related to the minimap. I forgot, has been a while.

But for sure the major point is the units design... and in particular the planes design. IMO ships are superfluos

[wbonx]

.... 2 months after ... it would be great to see at least implemented a new design GUI.. creating new airveicles is such a pain..

[zgrssd]

ORIGINAL: wbonx

.... 2 months after ... it would be great to see at least implemented a new design GUI.. creating new airveicles is such a pain..

Then turn off Airforces. No reason to play with this optional content, if you hate it so.

Also did you seriously push this thread 8 days after a new patch?

[Emx77]

Sadly, he is right. This game has a lot of potential but unfortunately development is very slow. Much more slow than before. Mostly minor bug fixes, at snail pace. No more talk about DLC’s or major improvements.

[Soar_Slitherine]

What nonsense. It's not a mystery what Vic is currently working on. There aren't rapid-fire bugfixes because bug reports are also coming in at a trickle at this point.

I do certainly hope the naval forces ship with a better model design UI, though! I've been willing to put up with the aircraft design UI so far, but I can see why people are annoyed about it. Naval models are probably going be somewhere between ground and air ones in complexity, so them using the same UI wouldn't be as obnoxious as with aircraft, but still pretty disappointing.

[wbonx]

ORIGINAL: zgrssd

ORIGINAL: wbonx

.... 2 months after ... it would be great to see at least implemented a new design GUI.. creating new airveicles is such a pain..

Then turn off Airforces. No reason to play with this optional content, if you hate it so.

Also did you seriously push this thread 8 days after a new patch?

Dude... not sure if you are a moderator or just someone enjoying writing 50% of the posts on this forum... but change your tone.

First there was no official patch posted 8 days ago... at least not on steam. Actually there was no patch at all in teh last months without considering minor bug fixes.

Second, the game needs some polish to be a finished product,... airplanes design UI is very bad... too bad actually.
Airplanes are a major component of the game not some addons to disable as you say.

In regard to having ships.. I really don't feel the need, it would just overcomplicate things and too much of a hassle for the dev.

[Soar_Slitherine]

ORIGINAL: wbonx
First there was no official patch posted 8 days ago... at least not on steam. Actually there was no patch at all in teh last months without considering minor bug fixes.

It wasn't posted in Steam news (and it doesn't look like the changelog posted on the Steam forums by the publisher is complete), but there was in fact an update bringing the features & bugfixes from the last 5 months of work on the beta patch to the live version.

[wbonx]

Ok, so there was an unreported synch of the beta branch with the official steam.. well I'm aware of the bug fixes on the beta/current update.

My complain is about the dev leaving unfinished the implementation of a new design UI, even after it was clear from the last poll that this was a major game breaker.
Personally I stopped playing the game waiting for this to be fixed to avoid ruining it.

A new design UI doesn't look to me like something hard to implement, it would have been enough from the dev to say that this would be done by a date or in a couple of months, instead of going fullpower on a new title leaving this in the void.

Anyway, again, I think the game is great (that's why it deserves some attention) and the dev has done a great job interacting with the community, at lest until now! [:)]

[ShadowVillage]

I have played this game far longer without a break than any other 4X game I can remember. I can live with a less than ideal GUI when the underlying game is so engrossing. Same thing with graphics - I don't care about pretty pictures, I care about game play. For what I paid vs. the amount of time I've played, this game is a huge bargain. I understand some people focus on how smooth a game runs or how easy it is to get things done and someone like that will be upset with this game. That's not me, however; I will put up with interface issues when the game itself is good.

[altipueri]

Always check date of joining and number of posts.

Time spent in reconnaissance is seldom wasted.

[eddieballgame]

wbonx
"Dude... not sure if you are a moderator or just someone enjoying writing 50% of the posts on this forum... but change your tone."

As you continue to frequent this forum, you will come to realize that 'zgrssd' is an invaluable asset to the Shadow Empire community.
Always willing to help & inform.
There are others...maybe you in the near future.

[wbonx]

ORIGINAL: ShadowVillage

I have played this game far longer without a break than any other 4X game I can remember. I can live with a less than ideal GUI when the underlying game is so engrossing..

Agree that the game is anyway enjoyable and a gem in the genre...

My feeling is that the actual implementation of the design UI really breaks the flow to a point (air design), when it becomes easy to loose touch with the game. That's why I prefer waiting for this to be fixed and fully appreciate the potential of the title.

I'm a dev and my guess is that fixing it would take few hours of work, that's why I don't get why after the poll and almost one year it isn't finished.

Sticking with the OT.