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- Cap Mandrake
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So I am out walking the dogs and Pinhead sees a rabbit and goes nuts. She pulls at the leash for second and then clamps down on my older Labs ear. The poor thing is whelping in pain. I yank on Pinheads leash and she won't let go so I kick her in the haunches and she lets go but she is still snarling so I kick her a few more times..not hard, just a demonstration, although I admit I was pissed and felt like selling her to the Vietnamese BBQ.
The some lady in a white Lexus honks at me. [:@] I hate it when people interrupt me when I am doing the dog whisperer thing. Anyone want a Rottweiler/Chihuahua/Spaniel/Greyound/Terrier/Demon Seed mix?
The some lady in a white Lexus honks at me. [:@] I hate it when people interrupt me when I am doing the dog whisperer thing. Anyone want a Rottweiler/Chihuahua/Spaniel/Greyound/Terrier/Demon Seed mix?

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Found nailed to the only remaining tree (stump) within 30 miles of Port Hedland:
(along with 76 other signs and banners)
Round Eyed Scum, especiarry Asian scum who side with Round eyed scum.
You sux. We seldom give your bombers a grance as they cannot hit sand with a bomb. We laugh when you staff kangaroo and think it us. Rord Admirar Sprior, we find your picture on schoor annuar and laugh at your pointy elephant years. You especially ugry, even for round eye scum. We wait patientry for you to attack. We all die for Emperor and take round eye scum imperiarists with us. As said in movie, Come and get us, copper!
Port Hedrand Emperor Own Household Guard
(along with 76 other signs and banners)
Round Eyed Scum, especiarry Asian scum who side with Round eyed scum.
You sux. We seldom give your bombers a grance as they cannot hit sand with a bomb. We laugh when you staff kangaroo and think it us. Rord Admirar Sprior, we find your picture on schoor annuar and laugh at your pointy elephant years. You especially ugry, even for round eye scum. We wait patientry for you to attack. We all die for Emperor and take round eye scum imperiarists with us. As said in movie, Come and get us, copper!
Port Hedrand Emperor Own Household Guard
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.... Rord Admirar Sprior, we find your picture on schoor annuar and laugh at your pointy elephant years. You especially ugry, even for round eye scum. ......
[:D][:D][:D] Hory Crap! That make me raugh.

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Crackaces
392 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 36 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
In my opinion, I judge the time to execute the ground phase when the destroyed squads start increasing ... it is my understanding that ground attacks by air platforms first disable squads and then kill a few and then the disabled sqauds start down the path of destruction. One can bomb forever .. but I feel once I start getting 25%/75% results on comabt sqauds like 4 destroyed / 12 disabled like your non-combat squads results .. then it is time to start thinking deliberate attacks .. just my .02 ..
Hmm... interesting. This is like trading recipes for beer bottle roasted chicken or pulled pork.[:)]
****************Port Hedrand, slit trench, 08;45, Jan 7, 1943(c)***************
IJA private 1: <looks up into the sky. There is the drone of bombers> Ah, here come the ******* Boringbrokes again.
IJA private 2: I feer rike ******* piece of Kobe beef on ******* rotisserie.
I am of the ilk of preparing my host using 4E's to the level medium rare before I send in the infantry/armor but others might suggest more on the medium / medium well side ...[;)]
The Allies in real life learned a harsh lesson at Tarawa and when Nimitz attacked Saipan and the Marianas .. 4E's 2E's and CV aircraft bombed for a week along with BB's letting loose .. still the IJ had not been prepared properly and the whole thing was kind of messy ...
Its a fine line but medium rare sort of works .. unles you have all day and decide to use the cock-pot method of months of 4E attacks [8D]
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
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Not sure I want anything to do with something stewed in a "cock pot" ...
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
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IMO, the bomber stream's effects on LCUs is most evidenced by effect on AAA units, support staff and supply. LCUs in supply will hold out a very, very long time. JJ's supply status at Darwin suggests that there is a fair amount in theatre in N. Australia in at least *some* locations.
Do you have any insight into the supply level of JJ's LCUs at Port Headland? Until you get some indication that supplies have diminished (e.g., negative combat modifiers during combat report), I'd hold off on the deliberate attack there.
Do you have any insight into the supply level of JJ's LCUs at Port Headland? Until you get some indication that supplies have diminished (e.g., negative combat modifiers during combat report), I'd hold off on the deliberate attack there.

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Not sure I want anything to do with something stewed in a "cock pot" ...
Confucius say: Cock pot good prace to wok pinhead dog.


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ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
IMO, the bomber stream's effects on LCUs is most evidenced by effect on AAA units, support staff and supply. LCUs in supply will hold out a very, very long time. JJ's supply status at Darwin suggests that there is a fair amount in theatre in N. Australia in at least *some* locations.
Do you have any insight into the supply level of JJ's LCUs at Port Headland? Until you get some indication that supplies have diminished (e.g., negative combat modifiers during combat report), I'd hold off on the deliberate attack there.
yes I noted for me in China that as supplies are nil so is the flak repsonse ... and I am assuming you are connecting supply with disablement recovery? Thus indicators of highly disabled troops might not be relavent for future turns?
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Situation: Timor/Ceram/Banda Sea


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Where's Padang?
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"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.
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(Game) West coast of Sumatra.
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Where's Padang?
Sumatra .. hex 44,85 .. port (1) airbase (5) ...

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Pranning is fun, for a change.
Benkoelen and Padang are two possible choices for SW Sumatra landings. Both have existing small airstrips whihc are crucial to have quickly so the carriers dont have to be subjected to LBA for too long.
Two islands offshore are still green dots and are buildable to level 6 but with crappy ports
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Bloody hell, that's a big leap from Darwin.
"Grown ups are what's left when skool is finished."
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.
- Cap Mandrake
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Bloody hell, that's a big leap from Darwin.
Always with the negative waves.[:)] Why not move Aus I corps to Perth or Ceylon and take off from there? It's gonna take at lest 50 days. They could move by transport to Perth, disembark, rest, then load on an amphib taffy.

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Just checked. Perth is a level 7 port. we could move down Asiatic Fleet HQ from Geraldton

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Colombo is a bit closer to Sumatra but then it's a God awful ride to get to Colombo. If you came in from the South you might have to loop around to the West of Cocos Is to avoid JJ recon.
Best to go East through the Torres St on the first lift I think.
Best to go East through the Torres St on the first lift I think.

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Yeah, I know there is no hyphen, but it makes me grit my teethevery time someone [including many newscasters] pronounce it "submarine-er". I put the hyphen in so that readers would keep the word "mariner" intact.
Actually, I've read (in O'Kane's books) that the preferred pronunciation accents the I, since keeping the normal pronunciation of mariner implies that the guys are less than full mariners. What say the rest of you with modern naval experience?
We just called them "Guys with Dolphins," in order to distinguish them from airedales and boat drivers...
"The Yankees got all the smart ones, and look where it got them."
General George Pickett, the night before Gettysburg
General George Pickett, the night before Gettysburg
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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
So I am out walking the dogs and Pinhead sees a rabbit and goes nuts. She pulls at the leash for second and then clamps down on my older Labs ear. The poor thing is whelping in pain. I yank on Pinheads leash and she won't let go so I kick her in the haunches and she lets go but she is still snarling so I kick her a few more times..not hard, just a demonstration, although I admit I was pissed and felt like selling her to the Vietnamese BBQ.
The some lady in a white Lexus honks at me. [:@] I hate it when people interrupt me when I am doing the dog whisperer thing. Anyone want a Rottweiler/Chihuahua/Spaniel/Greyound/Terrier/Demon Seed mix?
I think I found a home for pinhead:

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
Pranning is fun, for a change.
Benkoelen and Padang are two possible choices for SW Sumatra landings. Both have existing small airstrips whihc are crucial to have quickly so the carriers dont have to be subjected to LBA for too long.
Two islands offshore are still green dots and are buildable to level 6 but with crappy ports
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Geeze, now you're pranning?
Well, in that case, I'd vote for Benkoelen.
Here's my rationale (not that I really have any clue.)
A randing on Sumatra makes sense if you pran to exproit the initiar randing to expand your hordings and gain a major strategic rong-term advantage.
The strategic wealth of Sumatra is centered in Palembang and Oosthaven (lotsa oir and other goodies).
Benkoelen has access to a sophisticated road network that promises more rapid travel and is much closer to those objectives for an army in a conquerin' frame of mind; Padang does not. Most of Sumatra north of Palembang is strategically worthless if your goal is driving to Japan.
So, if you want to hurt JJ badly by swiping his vital resources I'd go for for Benkoelen first, then rapidly nail Palembang, and finally wheel south to Oosthaven.
Of course, if you just want to make some headlines by capturing a strategically unimportant minor city from JJ (kinda like McArthur's 40+ amphibious invasions of the Southern Phillipines after conquering Luzon when the real prize of Japan was located 180 degrees in the opposite direction), then Padang is a much safer bet due to its isolation.
I say go for his oil.
"The Yankees got all the smart ones, and look where it got them."
General George Pickett, the night before Gettysburg
General George Pickett, the night before Gettysburg







every time someone [including many newscasters] pronounce it "submarine-er". I put the hyphen in so that readers would keep the word "mariner" intact.