CHS - is anyone finished yet?

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RE: CHS - is anyone finished yet?

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I'm still wondering about the validity of this so called "flak gap" which inspired the Nik AAA boost. Is this actually a game design flaw or a historical fact for Japan? Did Japan really possess effective AA weapons whose range/height maximums and minimums overlapped effectively enough to cover all altitudes like the Allies did with their mix of automatic and HA AA guns? Japan sorely needed a mid range weapon like the 40mm Bofors.

Hi, does this "flak gap" really exist in the game? If I remember correctly, someone claimed that there is a flak gap at 6,000 feet. But I definetely take higher flak losses when attacking at 6,000 feet than when using a higher altitudes (just finished a PBEM turn where one of my pretty B-24Js was shot down when bombing at this altitude).

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Exactly. I have not seen any evidence of a design induced flak gap as I witness Allied losses at all altitudes all the time. Same with Japan except the AA is heavier and the planes are vulnerable.
The biggest problem is that the game uses max altitude. If effective was used then the 25mm would only be good to about 6000 feet, and the lowest effective engagement distance for Japanese heavies (predominately 75mm) would have been greater than 10000 feet (fusing, mount speed, fire control, aircraft speeds, engagement range, etc). Something can be done about the the former, but not the latter unless there is a real gap in the game. Historically the USAF medium bombers in the Pacific used either on the deck or between 5-10k feet to attack Japanese bases.

Nik discovered, through testing, that there was a min altitude for AA guns based on their max altitude. The longer range, the higher the minimum. What Nik did was to lower the max altitude to some number so heavy AA guns could engage targets at a lower than historical altitide, or at least this is how I interpreted it. Also, from what I understand, the mod only affected LCU's, not Naval, which supposedly used a diferent methodology.

Arguably a better system is to use effective range, like the ranges published in Hogg's Antiaircraft Artillery.
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RE: CHS - is anyone finished yet?

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Ok, I'll risk sounding stupid - what is CHS???
 
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Ok, I'll risk sounding stupid - what is CHS???

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C=Combined
H=Historical
S=Scenario

One of the earlier and more long standing mods.
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