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Only one? I've had four!
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Interestingly. Only ever had 1 WiTP PBEMer disappear. Had 1 in BTR too...........

My SP PBEM opponent is pretty useless though[:'(]
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Except when it comes to Molotov'ing your Tiger tanks...[8D]
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A grand total of one has been lost to your suicide bombers...........

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Underachiever!
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Only one? I've had four!

I was only counting allied opponents
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Me too...
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Not that I like the Chinese much... their latest preposterous boast is that they, not the Scots, invented golf. I wonder what'll be next: maybe they discovered penicilin or built the Pyramids in Egypt?
They did build the pyramids you know. If you turn them over, on the bottom, it says made in China.
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The Chinese are too busy playing capitalists to go to war, and the sort of arrogant postulations that people like el cid make are just idiotic. He has nothing resembling facts to base them on, but when has that ever stopped him?
Capitalists love to wage war for resources...when a capitalist economic engine gets hungry, LOOKOUT! [X(][X(]

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ORIGINAL: el cid again
Looking back from 60+ years later, it boggles the mind at how the Japanese thought that they could take on so many major powers with the hope of winning.

Study the Andromeda Affair. They had amazing intel - accurate but possibly fatally creating an impression of weakness.


Hi It was Automedon not Andromeda. (Automedon was Achilles chariot driver. Andromeda was a queen who thought she was good looking)

This event was Nov 1940. Not what you'd base a plan for war a year later on. The most direct result I see was Japan moving into Indo China. Nothing at all to do with war with USA other then Japan being surprised when that move provoked the boycott.
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The Japanese plan was based on the assumption that the US was "brittle" about casualties. That as a country and as a people we were unable and unwilling to pay the blood price necessary to retake the lost territory and carry the fight on to originally Japanese territory.

Amazing how history repeats itself.

The Japanese were right... they were just 60 years too early. Look at the situation today. Less than 3000 killed (double that if you count civilians) and half the country is ready to pull out of the war on terorism in Iraq. Vietnam was lost for precisly the reason that the American people lost the will to fight. It may not have been directly about casualties but it was the perception created by the events seen on TV that causes the loss of national will.
When the Vietnamese generals and the AMerican generals met to sign the peace agreement the American general said "You know, you guys never beat us in even one single battle". The Vietnamese general said, "That is tur. It is also irrelevant".

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Hmmm, methinks it's about time for this thread to be closed...
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