RHS 4.14 [Eratta; Chinese Army planning]

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RE: KGV Art Problem

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the only problem I have with this is that 183 also seems to be KGV.
I just e-mailed
slot 187 should also point to bitmap 187 as well as the others
187 has had a busy time today as it was also mixed up with the Mohawk air problem

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RE: KGV Art Problem

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Hi cid It looks like the MK IIc hurricanes that 176 got were special AI equipped ones   (which did exist even if it seems odd)
 
From the RAF history website http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/h176.html
 
No.176 Squadron was formed on 14 January 1943 at Dum Dum, Calcutta, with the arrival of a detachment of No.89 Squadron in India from the Middle East. Equipped with eight Beaufighters, it became operational immediately, flying night patrols over the Calcutta area. In May 1943, a second flight was formed with AI-equipped Hurricanes which were replaced by Beaufighters in January 1944. In September 1943, a detachment was based in Ceylon to encounter Japenese reconnaissance aircraft and in January 1944, the squadron began operating over Burma from advanced bases. In August, No.176 moved to southern India but returned to the Burma front in April 1945. Conversion to Mosquitoes began in June and the squadron disbanded on 31 May 1946.
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RE: KGV Art Problem

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They claim that No 176 Squadron was the first to use the IIC in the Far East. Confusingly, this is described as a night fighter unit - which seems odd for a non-night figher aircraft (I guess Japan was not alone operating non-radar planes in that role). This is not an issue in other scenarios because they didn't add the Indian Air Force in a comprehensive way. I allow planes from the time they can be operational. If aircraft were being delivered to the unit in August 1942 that means they theoretically could have begun operations in September.
 
Ive got to admit it looks like number 4 squadron IAF were not operational in their Hurricanes till early 44
 
see website for details [font=arial]http://www.indianairforce.nic.in/afsqnmain1.htm[/font]
 
but it is clear that they stated conversion training on Mk IIc's in 1942 and wer issued with them in august 42 . which cetainly implys that they were in general RAF use by then ... The aircraft entered production in early 1941 after all
 
In my opinion given the number of slots for hurricanes  you might discard the MK 1 (perhaps less than 100 issued in the far east ? ) for the MK IIb present in greater numbers   however deny the Mk IIb a drop tank which were only available in numbers in the far east late in 42    then bring the IIc in (with drop tank) in November 42
 
so restricting the time that the RAF can go back on the offensive till 1943   which is nicely historical
 
the forgotten air force mentions the lack of drop tanks, I seen several other mentions in a variety of books
 
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RE: KGV Art Problem

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The RAF regulary used aircraft in a Night Fighter role (often as intruders) without RADAR/AI in Europe so a similar use in India should be acceptable.
 
Also, why is it assumed the production of Blenheim I Night Fighter is followed by another Night Fighter? The RAF gets Beaufighters as Night Fighters on a seperate production trail.
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V2.59.9 minor upgrade for CVO-RAO-BBO posted on link page

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That means Centurion 227

Centurion [&:]


Sorry for asking do you mean the Centurion Tank.
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RE: KGV Art Problem

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That means Centurion 227

Centurion [&:]


Sorry for asking do you mean the Centurion Tank.


Sorry. I keep forgetting that not everyone is a naval nut. [I met a Marine who could go on any ship in any navy and talk about every ship ever to have that name in all history - no matter what ship it was. I set out to learn that much about ships!]

Centurion is a WWI era British battleship - still in commission in WWII!
She performed a number of tasks, ultimately being expended as a breakwater at Normandy. [Apparently her engines were in good enough shape to send her places]. The dawn of the Pacific War found her in the Arabian Sea, rebuilt with wood, canvass and aluminum structures to be a visual duplicate of Anson! She appears in RHS as a class - but the ship itself is named Anson - so when she is spotted she is reported as Anson. If she has to fight it will be as Centurion - a bad thing if there is much attacking - she only has light AA weapons! She had yet another mission in the Mideast before this duty. If memory serves - she was an AAA ship in Egypt - which may explain the light AAA weapons.

Turns out the original KGV also should point at art bitmap 187 as well. This is all fixed in RHS 2.599 - the last intended release before 2.60 -
which likely will be tomarrow. We have to calibrate some cargo subs - they are carrying too much just now - because "1 = 10" or something like that.
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RE: KGV Art Problem

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Drop tanks are at this point experimental anyway. Not sure they will be popular at all. they really REDUCE the effectiveness of a plane (I don't think this is understood) - vastly reducing the range to which it carries bombs for example - and / or reducing the amount of bombs carried. It also is not certain they work - there may be a reason they are not in stock or CHS! Time will tell. IF they work- more need to be added - and maybe some deleted. But the Hurricane I seems important and it seems wrong to let it be a II too early.
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Turns out the original KGV also should point at art bitmap 187 as well. This is all fixed in RHS 2.599 - the last intended release before 2.60 -
I checked v2.599 last night and the KGV none of the pointers (including the 3 refits) have changed)

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NE Korps Insulinde(2531) has a delay of 9420801[&:]

And then the following. I am reading a Osprey Book about Guam in 1941 and 1944.

Acoording of this where in 1941 on Guam the following forces:
1. A USMC Co
2. About 400 men Navy for a part armed
3. About 600 Militia for a part armed
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Acoording of this where in 1941 on Guam the following forces:
1. A USMC Co
2. About 400 men Navy for a part armed
3. About 600 Militia for a part armed
They put up a token resistance then surrendered.
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Actually, the Wake Island Militia was never legally formed, and since it did fight (without its own weapons) it was a criminal terrorist organization (in modern terminology)!

Proposed by Adm Kimmel, it was not possible to implement the concept in time - and it isn't clear it was going to be implemented - just that it was a possibility. To be useful it needed weapons and uniforms. The latter are essential to be legal - without at least an arm band - an identifying insignia- you are not a lawful comattatant in OUR terms. The Japanese were quite upset with these guys helping load machine guns (or whatever) and executed a number of the more clearly bellegerent on the spot. And this, folks, is exactly what we did to Germans captured not in proper uniform at the Battle of the Bulge - so I say don't whine unless you are willing to condemn American soldiers for taking a similar attitude.
There is an article in Sea Classics you can look up titled The Wake Island Militia with some documents and photographs.
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Clearly the leading 9 in the date for your beloved Korps is a field issue.
I will see what can be done about it.
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A problem with carrier air group dates

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They are ignored.

For that reason Indomitable had air groups even before the date!

For that reason these groups have been landed.

However, I have decided that BBO (and its RPO variant) will have them on board, while CVO (and RAO) will keep them strictly historical - in keeping with the differences between the scenarios. Right now all scenarios have them ashore - but whenever a release with erratta occurs - BBO variants will get them on board. Also the land base will move to Aden - because that is where they were.
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V3.00 RHS scenario updates posted on link page

changes

Even the Indian/Aussie/CW brigades may work. Lots of things here - but the big deal is correction of ship data fields - removal of many ships which serve on off map lines of communications or which move resources essential to economies not required by our production system (which, I guess, is the military economy).

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RE: A problem with carrier air group dates

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They are ignored.

For that reason Indomitable had air groups even before the date!

For that reason these groups have been landed.

However, I have decided that BBO (and its RPO variant) will have them on board, while CVO (and RAO) will keep them strictly historical - in keeping with the differences between the scenarios. Right now all scenarios have them ashore - but whenever a release with erratta occurs - BBO variants will get them on board.

They'll not be carrier trained when not starting a scenario (database-wise) aboard a carrier (they'll remain carrier capable).
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RE: A problem with carrier air group dates

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removal of many ships which serve on off map lines of communications or which move resources essential to economies not required by our production system
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Are you going to delete most of Canadian Navy? It seems that their ships were busy in Eastern Pacific in escort duty for coastal convoys.
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RE: A problem with carrier air group dates

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Let me see if I well understood, El Cid Again & Cobra Aus: RHS 2.60 (a.k.a. 3.0) is supposed to be the first "stable" release? I mean, can we start a game? Or should we wait a little more?
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RE: A problem with carrier air group dates

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Let me see if I well understood, El Cid Again & Cobra Aus: RHS 2.60 (a.k.a. 3.0) is supposed to be the first "stable" release? I mean, can we start a game? Or should we wait a little more?

A very rough process of testing and diagnostics indicates this should be at least stable. It is amazingly stable. I can run it even in the background - when it is not supposed to work. I also think it may work into 1944 or even 1945 economically - although it is too soon to know - until someone does.
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V3.01 medium upgrade and first release of PPO now posted in download link page

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