Recommended scenarios in TOAW3

[JAMiAM]

ORIGINAL: GJK

Ugh. Well, I guess if I ever delve into scenario design, this would be a good place to start tinkering. For now, it seems to play ok though I guess I have a significant edge as the Germans.

It is a fairly enjoyable, little scenario which offers a welcome break from playing monster scenarios. It just needs some clean up work done to it.

[GJK]

Yes, I like it. I'm doing a VASSAL module for the boardgame that inspired it (see: LINK). The boardgame is a nicely sized game as well, about 1 and 1/4 standard sized mapsheets, which translates to a fairly small scenario for TOAW. Makes one just wonder what the size of a printed map would be for some of the monster scenarios that TOAW has!

[hank]

Is there any known problems with Rundstedts Plan Martin ??
 
This scenario and the Zitadelle scenario are the two I'm learning the interface on.  This TAO scenario looks ... on the surface ... to be quite a nice Battle of the Bulge scenario (hypothetical of course).  I've only got about 5 moves into it so I haven't got far enough to know if there's any critical scoring imbalance issues.  This may be one I'll want to try pbem so it would be nice if I knew problems with it before I start one up.
 
Considering comments I see here, is there a place to read up on feedback regarding each scenario (besides the notes provided for each battle) ??
 
thanks

[golden delicious]

ORIGINAL: Mad Cow

It is a biaotch to negotiate this huge map and keep your troops supplied at the same time.

That would be what the airmobile troops are for.

[golden delicious]

ORIGINAL: TheBloodyBucket

As a member of the G-4 for IMEF during OIF, I would say the designer of the scenario in question has obviously hit the nail on the head here.

Yeah. The designer was also involved in the conventional campaign too, as I recall. The conventional fighting has the right feel to it, but I think the political aspects need work- otherwise the Iraqis don't have a chance.

[Mad Cow]

ORIGINAL: golden delicious

ORIGINAL: Mad Cow

It is a biaotch to negotiate this huge map and keep your troops supplied at the same time.

That would be what the airmobile troops are for.

You should of seen the Royal Commandos and Paras take Basra.

It would have made Queen and country proud.

[Mad Cow]

ORIGINAL: golden delicious

ORIGINAL: TheBloodyBucket

As a member of the G-4 for IMEF during OIF, I would say the designer of the scenario in question has obviously hit the nail on the head here.

Yeah. The designer was also involved in the conventional campaign too, as I recall. The conventional fighting has the right feel to it, but I think the political aspects need work- otherwise the Iraqis don't have a chance.

When I took Basra by force I lost -50 VP's due to the 'humanitarian crisis' which occured.

Some of this was made up for by the 30 points (iirc) Basra is worth, though.

[Mad Cow]

ORIGINAL: TheBloodyBucket

It is a biaotch to negotiate this huge map and keep your troops supplied at the same time.

As a member of the G-4 for IMEF during OIF, I would say the designer of the scenario in question has obviously hit the nail on the head here.

My Marines are kind of a mess right now, they are spread out all over the place, but starting to finally concentrate around Nasirya.

The VII Corps is just pushing past Nasirya, 300KM's or so to Baghdad.

I cannot get over the vastness of the map.

[Terminus]

Yeah, those company and battalion counters don't look like much in that desert, do they? I'm playing it too, along with a couple of others...

[golden delicious]

ORIGINAL: Mad Cow
You should of seen the Royal Commandos and Paras take Basra.

I did, when I played the scenario against Grant a couple of years ago.

[golden delicious]

ORIGINAL: Mad Cow
I cannot get over the vastness of the map.

It's more a matter of how small modern forces are. The coalition's ground force amounted to three divisions and two brigades IIRC. In the scenario this just means powering on up the roads, having first converted all the hexes with airborne units. The deep desert doesn't matter, so long as you have units available to deal with any hostile forces appearing in your rear.

[hank]

ORIGINAL: hank

Is there any known problems with Rundstedts Plan Martin ??

This scenario and the Zitadelle scenario are the two I'm learning the interface on.  This TAO scenario looks ... on the surface ... to be quite a nice Battle of the Bulge scenario (hypothetical of course).  I've only got about 5 moves into it so I haven't got far enough to know if there's any critical scoring imbalance issues.  This may be one I'll want to try pbem so it would be nice if I knew problems with it before I start one up.

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thanks

+1 ... ?
No Input?

I looked for an AAR on the Plan Martin scenario to no avail. It looks like one of the Normandy sce's is well documented with AAR's. I'll check it out tonight.

[larryfulkerson]

I kinda like FitE although I've not played it past turn 80 something, and have lost in the two times I played it PBEM ( from December to June ) and it's still kinda a mystery how the Axis is supposed to win, even though I saw my opponent do it once.

By The Way, what are the yellow pimples for in the picture below:

[Telumar]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

By The Way, what are the yellow pimples for in the picture below:

Hi Larry. It means "New post within the last 24 hours"

[rhinobones]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson
By The Way, what are the yellow pimples for . . .

That's where the zit cream goes.

Regards, RhinoBones

[golden delicious]

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

I kinda like FitE although I've not played it past turn 80 something, and have lost in the two times I played it PBEM ( from December to June ) and it's still kinda a mystery how the Axis is supposed to win, even though I saw my opponent do it once.

It's my experience that due to the limited number of Russian units, the German player is always able to find a weak spot and exploit it, and eventually the Soviet player just isn't getting enough reinforcements to rebuild. Mind you, this is based on one hotseat game.

[solops]

Where is a list of included scenarios? It out to be in the FAQ or have a sticky of its own. Wherever it is posted, it is not easy to find.

[solops]

ORIGINAL: golden delicious

ORIGINAL: larryfulkerson

I kinda like FitE although I've not played it past turn 80 something, and have lost in the two times I played it PBEM ( from December to June ) and it's still kinda a mystery how the Axis is supposed to win, even though I saw my opponent do it once.

It's my experience that due to the limited number of Russian units, the German player is always able to find a weak spot and exploit it, and eventually the Soviet player just isn't getting enough reinforcements to rebuild. Mind you, this is based on one hotseat game.

Man, I LOVED FitE/Scorched Earth board game! We played continuously for years after I got out of college. Been a long time now, though. Generally, the Russkies won, unless the Germans got lucky or the Russkies made a mistake in 41 or early/mid 42. then it turned into a game of "How much can the Germans hold?" In 43 the Germans were awesome...in one place. Everywhere else, the Russians ground them to dust, slowly and inexorably. The Germans are desperate to catch the Russians overextend a thrust, and if they do, say goodby to all of those lovely, expensive armored/mech corps. Great fun, but lots of time. That is what I always wanted from TOAW, a way to play the Eastern front solo and more quickly...no more counting hexes for supply, remembering ranges and availability, etc.

[JAMiAM]

ORIGINAL: solops

Where is a list of included scenarios? It out to be in the FAQ or have a sticky of its own. Wherever it is posted, it is not easy to find.

You could look at this post...[;)]
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[Neilster]

ORIGINAL: hank

ORIGINAL: hank

Is there any known problems with Rundstedts Plan Martin ??

This scenario and the Zitadelle scenario are the two I'm learning the interface on.  This TAO scenario looks ... on the surface ... to be quite a nice Battle of the Bulge scenario (hypothetical of course).  I've only got about 5 moves into it so I haven't got far enough to know if there's any critical scoring imbalance issues.  This may be one I'll want to try pbem so it would be nice if I knew problems with it before I start one up.

...

thanks

+1 ... ?
No Input?

I looked for an AAR on the Plan Martin scenario to no avail. It looks like one of the Normandy sce's is well documented with AAR's. I'll check it out tonight.

I played the TOAW:COW version as the Jerries and I liked it. The changes really improve the chances of success for the Germans but the new AI will toughen things up. Definitely worth a look.

I'd check out the hypothetical Case Green, Czechoslovakia 1938 one too. It's not too big and a lot of fun for both sides. As the Germans I once dropped my paratroops to form a pocket that linked my panzer spearheads to the outskirts of Prague. They suffered hideous losses to Czech counterattacks but held on long enough to ensure success. (Scenes of Falshirmjaeger waving delriously to Panzer IIs as they race past [:'(] )

Cheers, Neilster