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Im thinking of buying a new games console and im abit unsure which to get
ive deciced on either the Nintendo wii and the xbox 360 which one is better and which should i buy?
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Depends on what you want from it...but given the price difference, the Wii is better bang for your buck.

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Buyn which ever console's games you like most. 
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Buy the Wii, if you don't like it return it ;)
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ORIGINAL: jeorge

Im thinking of buying a new games console and im abit unsure which to get
ive deciced on either the Nintendo wii and the xbox 360 which one is better and which should i buy?

I'm assuming PS3 is out due to its unavailability?

I'd look at the games currently available and the upcoming titles and pick whichever appears to have the most titles that interest you. Given the types of titles do vary quite a bit between platforms, that should be the biggest part of your decision.

The Wii controlers uniqueness would add extra attraction to me, but yet I personally don't find the Wii's lineup of games attractive at all, plus I still believe MS will catch up with Sony at copying the Wii Controller as an addon device. And, as mentioned, I think the fun gotten simply due to the controls will wear off fast and the all Wii games may quickly become plain and boring..

I really like the other uses of the 360 also like its arcade console, pay-per-view movies, streaming music/movies from my PC, etc. etc. Plus the longterm belief that the 360 is/will become by far the easiest platform for both professional and hobbyists alike to develop for.

LASTLY! Ignore all this rubbish about the price of the console. They are all practically FREE in comparison! It's the dang 60 bucks a game that kills you and they are pretty much all priced the same on that level. Whether you Spend $250 $300 or $400 won't matter once you've bought a dozen games ($720.00 retail)
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I like the Wii myself. The price is right it comes with 4 games, Bowling, Tennis, Golf and BOXING! It has that new feature of live action play that looks kewl and something I've always been interested in. Call of Duty 3 looks just as good on it as I've seen any other. It probably won't offer the mainstream mainstream games of the Xbox360 or PS3, but, then again I'm not much into most mainstream titles anyways. Definitely depends on what you are looking for in your console gaming library though. I always did enjoy playing Mario Karts with my son. ;)

And you don't have to buy the $60 games. You can always rent them instead. Some games only have a life of a few days anyways. Renting is the best way to go for those type games.
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Stick with a PC, far more scope.....
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He wants a console Andy....doesn't mean he can't have both. ;)
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He wants a console Andy....doesn't mean he can't have both. ;)
Popular trend seems to be having computer and console, in some cases more than one console per console generation.

My family, practically myself and my littlebrother, have at least one console per console generation starting from NES and ending to Xbox 360. Between are MegaDrive, N64 and Xbox. That covers about every console generation in history excluding Atari 2600 and hand consoles (only GBC and N-Gage there).

Anyways there are some great games on consoles, and some of those games are better played on consoles than on computers... unless you plug computer to TV and have sufficient number of game controllers (ah the golden days of Commodore 64). Indeed many console specific games play better on consoles than similar games on computers. I mean, (war) strategy games are best played on computers, but imagine/try playing those on consoles! And same goes other way around. Micro Machines simply works better on MegaDrive and TV than on PC and 17" monitor.
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Wargames would be alright on consoles as long as they made a mouse device for them. I'd move to console in a NY minute if they had real wargames on them and not clickfest wannabe wargames. I just like that one box plays all instead of every other year having to buy a new video card, more ram, a faster hard-drive, more ram a new type of dvd player, more ram, a new OS....did I mention more RAM? ;)
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I just like that one box plays all instead of every other year having to buy a new video card, more ram, a faster hard-drive, more ram a new type of dvd player, more ram, a new OS....did I mention more RAM? ;)
So instead buying those new parts every other year you would like to buy new console instead? Well... console alone don't cost much more than decent graphic adapter. But what is this about more RAM? I had gigabyte of it on my new PC when I bought it 3 years ago, and there hasn't come anything which would had required having more of it.

And are there wargames which require graphic adapter which costs over 100 €? Ground Control 2, MechCommander 2 and the likes might count as that, but then they are closer to clickfest.
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I don't recall people having to buy a new console every other year, in fact it's more like every 4 to 5 years. Only way I could seeing buying a new console every year would be if some bloke had to have them all. I would never buy more than one. And the Wii looks like my choice for the record. ;) As far as ram I'm talking about from the days we only needed 2mb of ram to today of 1000mb of ram. Some people are even running 2000mb of ram. It's always more ram. lol
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As far as ram I'm talking about from the days we only needed 2mb of ram to today of 1000mb of ram.
mb = millibits? It's MB = megabytes dammit [:'(]

And there is no such thing as 1000 MB of RAM. It is 1024 MB = 1 GB (gigabyte)
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The only real answer is: look at the game lineup for each console and make your decision from there. If I HAD to buy next gen I'd see Culdcept Saga on the horizon for the 360 and, well, my decision would be made. I'm also waiting for Sony's machine to get a good burn-in period. I like the Wii but most definitely NOT for strategy games.

If you enjoy strategy games then Sony's platform has always excelled. The games may not have the depth of PC counterparts but I like me some fast paced, turn-based strategy and Playstation 2 has over 100 games in that genre (if you count Japanese games). Can we expect that trend to continue into this generation? For the price of a current console you can get a chipped PS2 and the games will be oh-so-much cheaper. You'll have a ton of games to choose from and you can bide your time until the price of current consoles drop AND their stability goes up.

Microsoft's XBox had what? Two strategy games? One of them was superbly lame.

The Gamecube had a single strategy game, and it was an SRPG. It was good but one game doesn't make a system (well, actually, in my opinion Fire Emblem was worth owning the system for).

The Playstation 2 had 100s of strategy and srpg games if count compatible Playstation software. There were some outright bad titles but there were many good ones as well.

At the peak of my console gaming hobby (a mere year ago) I owned over a thousand console games. A good 60 percent of them were strategy or SRPG titles. Hands down, the Playstation and PS2 had the numbers. The Sega Saturn came in a relatively close second. The other consoles were nice to have but not for strategy gaming.
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As far as ram I'm talking about from the days we only needed 2mb of ram to today of 1000mb of ram.
mb = millibits? It's MB = megabytes dammit [:'(]

And there is no such thing as 1000 MB of RAM. It is 1024 MB = 1 GB (gigabyte)
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PS2 hands down

A HUGE selection of titles, that can be had for a fraction of the original price tag at “used game stores"
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The only real answer is: look at the game lineup for each console and make your decision from there. If I HAD to buy next gen I'd see Culdcept Saga on the horizon for the 360 and, well, my decision would be made. I'm also waiting for Sony's machine to get a good burn-in period. I like the Wii but most definitely NOT for strategy games.

If you enjoy strategy games then Sony's platform has always excelled. The games may not have the depth of PC counterparts but I like me some fast paced, turn-based strategy and Playstation 2 has over 100 games in that genre (if you count Japanese games). Can we expect that trend to continue into this generation? For the price of a current console you can get a chipped PS2 and the games will be oh-so-much cheaper. You'll have a ton of games to choose from and you can bide your time until the price of current consoles drop AND their stability goes up.

Microsoft's XBox had what? Two strategy games? One of them was superbly lame.

The Gamecube had a single strategy game, and it was an SRPG. It was good but one game doesn't make a system (well, actually, in my opinion Fire Emblem was worth owning the system for).

The Playstation 2 had 100s of strategy and srpg games if count compatible Playstation software. There were some outright bad titles but there were many good ones as well.

At the peak of my console gaming hobby (a mere year ago) I owned over a thousand console games. A good 60 percent of them were strategy or SRPG titles. Hands down, the Playstation and PS2 had the numbers. The Sega Saturn came in a relatively close second. The other consoles were nice to have but not for strategy gaming.

You bring up a good point.If you like these types of games the XBox almost completely ignores these genres.They may have a couple of RPGs coming in the future,besides Oblivion already out,but i doubt if there will be more than half a dozen or so over the period of the consoles life.

As for strategy games?You will never see a a non-RTS one on the 360.Thats just not the market they are shooting for with their games.Now if you are big into action type games and shooters then this will probably be your choice for a console.

I don't own a Wii so i can't pass any judgements on it and what kind of titles to expect.

Playstation does a nice job of filling in the niche though.Hopefully they continue to do so with the PS3.

As to the original poster.I would say to see what games the two systems you are considering buying offer in their current and future titles and make your choice based on the exclusive titles that they have,and will have,based upon your tastes.
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Microsoft's XBox had what? Two strategy games? One of them was superbly lame.
One of the two is Homeworld 2. What is the lame one? Battle for Middle-Earth?
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Microsoft's XBox had what? Two strategy games? One of them was superbly lame.
One of the two is Homeworld 2. What is the lame one? Battle for Middle-Earth?

Original Xbox, not 360. Battle for Middle Earth is a 360 title.

The two on original Xbox are:

Dai Senryaku VII: Excellent and long running turn-based combat title using modern equipment. Past versions have taken place in both modern day and WWII. There are over 20 games in the series though this was only the 2nd to come to US shores in English (Iron Storm for Sega Saturn--a better title IMO--was the first).

Shattered Union: Yuck, in a word. Lousy AI, no ZOC. I don't even want to think about this game. :)

Edit: Homeworld doesn't appear to have ever been released on a console.
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I bought my ten year old son an XBOX360 after listening to a year a whining and begging[8|]. He has a huge library of XBOX games and all our family gaming is done on his machine/big screen TV. Halo/Halo 2 and the upcoming Halo 3 are some of the best times "we" have had gaming as a family...even my Wife and Daughter. I was pretty damn impressed with the graphics...okay really impresssed...so my suggestion would be XBOX360. It IS expensive: XBOX360+game=$475...Quality family time, laughing so hard it makes you cry=Priceless[:D].
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