Using WITP Database for WPO Editor

[CEDeaton]

I'd like to build a scenario for a sort of "War Plan Yellow-Orange" that assumes the Allies rally to the CHinese cause and declare war in early 1938 following two historical events that occured - the Panay Incident and the intercept & decoding of a telegram sent to the Japanese Ambassador in Washington that confirmed reports of the Nanking Massacre.

My question is, can anyone tell me if it would it be possible to load a WITP 1941-45 scenario & database file into the WPO Editor and start my editing from there (and have it work in WPO when I was finished)?

[Terminus]

Well, the editor program is exactly the same, and it saves in the same file formats, so yeah, I don't see why not...

[Mike Carroll]

That scenario might be better done in WITP. Most WITP ships have actual arrival dates so you could set the period as 1938 and fight it out with the ship available. You would probably need to drastically redo the aircraft.

If you did not want to hassel with the production system you could turn it off and put daily supply in place.

Sounds like a big project - good luck!

[CEDeaton]

On reflecton, I think you're probably right Mike. I can just pinch some artwork and stats from the WPO database and save myself some trouble. Plus, by early 38, the ensuing war would probably have been much more akin to the actual WITP instead of WPO.

I sure wish there was a way to merge and sort the two databases (or is that databai[;)] )

[jwilkerson]

ORIGINAL: CraigDeaton

On reflecton, I think you're probably right Mike. I can just pinch some artwork and stats from the WPO database and save myself some trouble. Plus, by early 38, the ensuing war would probably have been much more akin to the actual WITP instead of WPO.

I sure wish there was a way to merge and sort the two databases (or is that databai[;)] )

Use WITPLOAD to enable merging and sorting ... available from Spooky's.

Also there may be some hardcoded date issues with earlier than 1941 dates in WITP, not sure, but of course at a minimum you would have to adjust all appearence dates in the data-bi (bae, bai). I built working 1900 start scenario in WPO .. but haven't tried "out of range" scenario in WITP, but shouldn't take too long for you to find out. Just try it and see if it works !

[CEDeaton]

You just made my day, buddy. Thanks a TON!!

ORIGINAL: jwilkerson

Use WITPLOAD to enable merging and sorting ... available from Spooky's.

Also there may be some hardcoded date issues with earlier than 1941 dates in WITP, not sure, but of course at a minimum you would have to adjust all appearence dates in the data-bi (bae, bai). I built working 1900 start scenario in WPO .. but haven't tried "out of range" scenario in WITP, but shouldn't take too long for you to find out. Just try it and see if it works !

[Tankerace]

Just to clarify, WPO's editor and WitP's are exactly the same, they will load either scenario.

However, War Plan Orange WILL NOT run any scenario starting after 1940. The Game will launch, load the scenario, and then dump you back to the menu screen.

Conversly, War in the Pacific will no longer (since WPO was released) run any scenario before 1941. So while you can use the stats from either game, For any games taking place before 1941 you need WPO to run it, and after 1940 WitP to run it. I am not sure on end dates, that would be something Mike would know.

[jwilkerson]

ORIGINAL: Tankerace

Just to clarify, WPO's editor and WitP's are exactly the same, they will load either scenario.

However, War Plan Orange WILL NOT run any scenario starting after 1940. The Game will launch, load the scenario, and then dump you back to the menu screen.

Conversly, War in the Pacific will no longer (since WPO was released) run any scenario before 1941. So while you can use the stats from either game, For any games taking place before 1941 you need WPO to run it, and after 1940 WitP to run it. I am not sure on end dates, that would be something Mike would know.

But looks like 1938 start then needs to be done under WPO.

[showboat1]

What ever happened to this scenario? Craig? Are you still around?

[hueglin]

ORIGINAL: Mike Carroll

That scenario might be better done in WITP. Most WITP ships have actual arrival dates so you could set the period as 1938 and fight it out with the ship available. You would probably need to drastically redo the aircraft.

If you did not want to hassel with the production system you could turn it off and put daily supply in place.

Sounds like a big project - good luck!

If the ships you want are in WITP, but you want it to be correctly dated in 1938, I suggest you load the WITP database into WITP Editor X, then modify all the dates to 1938. Then you can (or should be able to) load it into WPO and run it.

[CEDeaton]

ORIGINAL: showboat1

What ever happened to this scenario? Craig? Are you still around?

I'm still around and the idea is still ticking around in the back of my noggin, but I got distracted with trying to tweek the War in the Mediterranean MOD that Ferrell did and Nick did a NikMod for.

SSI's old Bomb Alley game was a favorite game of mine "back in the day", and I'm really hooked on this new project right now. I'm currently researching all the Italian (and some British/Commonwealth) Ship and Squadron Commanders (with good success) and doing some art updates & additions for missing plane graphics, report screens and so forth.

I'm sure I'll get to the 1938 Pacific scenario eventually, but I can't recommend breath-holding. I'll post a message up when it's done and provide it to someone for download purposes. If anyone is interested in testing it when I'm in "Beta", just leave a message here or drop me an e-mail.

[el cid again]

I intend to use WITP files with the WPO editor and it appears this will work. My scenario needs dates early in the century - 00 to 20 or so -
although I mean it to mean the 2000 series of years and it will say 19xx.

I also am going to propose we modify the RHS maps for WPO - and of course we will do new ones for modern. But we must run the modern game under WOP.

Hard code is pretty much slot dependent. Use stock of both games to figure this out. There is no radar in WPO - but the code is still in the same slots as WITP.