Couple weird things

[RedArgo]

In my latest game I noticed a couple weird occurences.

1. I had runners on 2nd and 3rd with no outs. 2 base error to the outfield. Both runners score, but then the lead runner ends up back on 3rd with the hitter on first. Next guy gets a hit and the runner on third scores again. Two runs for him in one inning with only one plate appearance.

2. My pitcher gave up 2 straight errors to lead of the inning. Both runners scored. At the end of the game both runs were earned. I'm pretty sure they should have both been unearned.

Bill

[motnahp]

The way that the program determines earned vs. unearned runs needs some work. It appears to me that the only way an unearned run is charged is if the run scores on the same play in which the error is made.

In real baseball, the scorer re-creates the inning and substitutes an out for a play that should have been made. I have addressed this before and am hoping that Shaun has already added it to his "to do" list.

[sooner7]

I had never noticed that occuring until I put the game on my new computer, and then there were never any unearned runs. I thought Shaun had created a patch that helped the problem.

[motnahp]

Watch for any error occurring with two outs. EVERY run after that should be unearned, as the inning should have been over. What I see is that all the runs are counted as earned runs, unless they score on the play where the error occurs.

[Frozen Stiffer]

motnahp is spot-on here. I had noticed what I thought was incorrect calculations of earned and unearned runs some time ago. I had always been under the impression that if a fielder reached base on an error, regardless of the number of outs at present, they would be "tagged" an error-generated run for the remainder of their time on base that inning. So, if they eventually score, it would be an unearned run.

I was since corrected in a manner matching motnahp's description. If there are two outs and because of an error, the inning is allowed to continue, any runs thereafter will count as unearned runs. I have seen this to be true, now that I know what I'm looking at.

Of course, when it's my team that's to blame, I wish it were as I had first suspected, so that my pitcher's stats are not as wounded. However, it is what it is.