How?

[Terminus]

What sort of mechanic (if any) does Harpoon have in place for heavy ship armour? I can come up with only two classes of the top of my head that have armour (Iowa and Sverdlov), but is there a game mechanism to calculate it, or is it just so-and-so-many more damage points?

[PatinAZ]

This is the uninformed guess, but it would appear to be by the assignment of damage points. The Iowa class is about the only type of ship that can take a hit by the nasty Soviet ship-killer missiles and still be afloat and functional.

[Warhorse64]

In the paper rules, armour reduces the probability of a critical hit. Damage points are based on tonnage, so armour does have an effect there, but except for the BBs, it's a small one.

[CV32]

ORIGINAL: Warhorse64
In the paper rules, armour reduces the probability of a critical hit. Damage points are based on tonnage, so armour does have an effect there, but except for the BBs, it's a small one.

It plays the same role in HCE, i.e. reducing the probability of critical hits. You can adjust armor levels (light, medium, heavy or special) in the DB. Armor also reduces inflicted damage points (DP), up to 75% (max).

[Terminus]

Have to ask: what constitutes "special" armour?

[PatinAZ]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Have to ask: what constitutes "special" armour?

[ Borrowing from adventure games ]
+1 magical armor

I could not resist !!

[CV32]

ORIGINAL: Terminus
Have to ask: what constitutes "special" armour?

Its the heaviest, or highest rated, type of armor. In H4 paper rules terms, penetration of special armor requires a special armor piercing penetrator bomb, an AP gun projectile of caliber 191-406mm or a missile with DP of 100+. I expect the HCE code has a simpler method of modeling special armor.

[Terminus]

So it's just the next step up from heavy armour... Gotcha![;)]

[Shark7]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

So it's just the next step up from heavy armour... Gotcha![;)]

Think BB turrets. It's the heaviest armor out there.

[mack2]

ORIGINAL: PatinAZ

This is the uninformed guess, but it would appear to be by the assignment of damage points. The Iowa class is about the only type of ship that can take a hit by the nasty Soviet ship-killer missiles and still be afloat and functional.

One of the old CGN classes was pretty tough as well.. California or Long Beach class or some such.

[Shark7]

ORIGINAL: mack2

ORIGINAL: PatinAZ

This is the uninformed guess, but it would appear to be by the assignment of damage points. The Iowa class is about the only type of ship that can take a hit by the nasty Soviet ship-killer missiles and still be afloat and functional.

One of the old CGN classes was pretty tough as well.. California or Long Beach class or some such.

Long Beach, all steel construction instead of the aluminum found on most current CGs.

[FransKoenz]

Long Beach, all steel construction instead of the aluminum found on most current CGs.

It is not the steel construction that counts, but the number of incoming ship-killers.
Once 1 hit the cruiser, one after one system fail. And it is the midships part that contains all necesarry components to operate the cruiser. When you see a picture of the ship, here is one ...

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The reason behind the complete steel hull imho must be found in the fact that the USS Long Beach was a nuclear powered cruiser, and therefore had to to be that strong hull to protect the envirronment as well, even when burning.
The USS Long Beach was also a kind of show to the world. The first nuclear powered missile cruiser in the world.
The cruiser itself seemed to be one big sickbay due to her instabillity.

[Terminus]

Seems to be leaning over, even while stationary...[:D]

[FransKoenz]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Seems to be leaning over, even while stationary...[:D]

[:D]

[Shark7]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Seems to be leaning over, even while stationary...[:D]

It's a just a bit top-heavy. Just a bit. [;)] [:D]

[FransKoenz]

It's a just a bit top-heavy. Just a bit. [;)] [:D]

Especially when they use the patriottic seized stripes and banners as sail..... the Cutty Stark would be nothing[:D]