U2 vs Mogami

[mogami]

Greetings, In game where I am Allied and Dan the Japanese I invaded his base on San Cristabol Island. The bad news I lost many transports, A CV damaged by LBA from Lunga and worse my 10k invaders discover 30k combat troops dug in.
2 IJN minelayers slip in among the transports and unload before being caught. USN bombardment finally hits Lunga but not before strikes from there cause much harm. Surface actions put many ships out of commision. On NG the allies are making their first offensive towards Lae after securing PM/Gili/Buna

[Philbd]

I've just joined this forum as a result of buying Uncommon Valor and have followed these postings with interest. In game terms I think Port Moresby is a dead end(along with the pipe dream of invading Aussieland). I feel that the Japanese cannot muster enough troops, ships or aircraft to take Port Moresby against a human player. PM is a huge unsunkable aircraft carrier that the Japanese player needs to keep out of range of-why waste your biggest advantage butting heads against the Allies biggest advantage. I'm not opposed to a Gili-Gili strategy-the Allies must be kept busy in NG to split their forces but the focus of Japan must be on the Solomons and New Hebrides. One comment someone made-there are no bases there -comes to mind. That is the reason to go that route-the Japanese if they concentrate have the superior Naval forces that the Allies can't match right away. Attacking PM lets Allies respond with land based air(the Japanese cannot match them there) and use their carriers cautiously. Going GC forces Allies to use them if they want to counter and gives you the chance to knock them out(outside of landbased range-only Rabaul reaches GC area).
Develope GC and Tulagi as forward bases to use them in your attack on the New Hebrides. The allies only have the Americal Division to defend Noumea and the New Hebrides until the 1st Marine shows up in July. The whole idea is to do a GC in reverse using your strengths against the Allies weakness. It worked against the AI rahter handily but as we all know AI is AI(they all stink and they all cheat)

[Bosun]

Epic reports,
These posts of your battles remind me of the Japanese historical fiction novels so popular there which write of the Japanese "victory" over the USA in the Pacific. I would not be in the least surprised if some enterprising novelist were to use your AARs as the grist for their mill! I certainly have enjoyed them and I feel confidant that all my pbem opponnets will have interesting days ahead!

[Philbd]

I just finished reading all posts (I had only read ones about PM attacks and missed ones about Luganville)so my apologies for preaching to choir. Someone made comment about a program bug if Japanese captured Luganville. It's not a bug. The Japanese stopped their advance in the South Pacific-they were not stopped. They were confident that the war was over(prior to Midway) and after underestimated Americas speed of recovery and ability to counterattack.
In this game Japanese player should suffer no illisions. Unless you get really, really lucky-you will lose the long game. Your only hope is to continue the Japanese attack at the point of the Allies weakness-the Solomons and New Hebrides. They do not have big developed bases that the Allies can use as unsinkable CV and the Islands have few troops or planes defending them. Keep the Allies land based AC busy in PM (Gilli-Gilli diversion) and Buna along the trail, and use your carriers to support you invasions down the Solomons.

[U2]

Originally posted by Bosun
Epic reports,
These posts of your battles remind me of the Japanese historical fiction novels so popular there which write of the Japanese "victory" over the USA in the Pacific. I would not be in the least surprised if some enterprising novelist were to use your AARs as the grist for their mill! I certainly have enjoyed them and I feel confidant that all my pbem opponnets will have interesting days ahead!

Hi

Many thanks for your kind words Bosun. I personally think that I could have written better posts for this AAR but I am pleased when people enjoy reading this. Many months left in both of my PBEM games with Mogami so plenty more to come. Today I will post something about my IJN surprise attack on Mogami's amphib landing on my base.
Dan

[U2]

Hi

My base at San Cristabol was intended to be used as a springboard for my invasion of Luganville. The CV battle that ended in a disaster changed all that over a night.

My first thought was to fortify this base otherwise it could be used against Lunga and Shortland which are both large IJN and IJAF bases. Therefore I ordered my engineers to build fortifications instead of an airbase. It is now at level 9 and I had placed well over 100 000 supplies there.

All the sudden I noticed a lonely AP/AK TF heading my way which struck me as very odd indeed. Mogami later said that he had no idea about the size of my force and that explains it. The convoy started to unload not knowing a full division was waiting in the jungle with plenty of rise and Sake.

While the transports were still unloading supplies and Marines over 10 000 screaming japanese soldiers of the proud 2nd Div and elements of the 38th stormed out of the jungle towards the beach screaming "Banzai!" and "GI you die!" in very bad english. The unprepared american Marines turned pale in horror. " My God! Japs all over the place!", "Theres no stopping them!", "Save yourselves!" could be heard from the American side. The beach was cleared within 3 days and the units are now cut off in a hex north of my base.

I sunk many transports thanks to my AF bases at Lunga and Shortland. Mogami is trying his best to shut down Lunga with surface TFs which is resulting in heavy naval combat as well. My ENTIRE IJN sub force was killed in the battle for San Cristabol but they did take a few DDs and APs with them. They served with honor and died with honor.

This battle is far from over but eventually I will lose because of the sheer power of the USA. The men of the 2nd Inf Div has bought my plenty of weeks however.

More to come.
Dan
* very sorry for the use of "Jap" in this thread but no offense meant. If you did then you cant watch any movie about the Pacific War or read any book on the subject. Most of the UV forum users knows by now that I love Japan very much.

[mogami]

" My God! Japs all over the place!", "Theres no stopping them!", "Save yourselves!" could be heard from the American side. The beach was cleared within 3 days and the units are now cut off".......U2

.Greetings, Pure propaganda. The USMC troops actually said
"*** **** Japs ******* all over the ******* place." The no stopping them is utter nonsense. The Marines executed a text book maneuver that placed them on the now cut off Japanese flank. The DD Aaron Ward sank 2 IJN Subs in one night. She was rewarded with a trip to Pearl for RR. As she left L'ville her crew manned the rails and mooned the awe struck crews of the fleet.
Needless to say the revelation of the complete demise of Japanese underwater forces leaves the crews of Allied ASW craft heartbroken.



(Just recieved new turn. Dan started e-mail with
"Your not going to like this turn".................):eek:

[U2]

Mogami,

I did my best to create a Japanese propaganda script for the battle. Pure BS but perhaps nice to read eh.
Dan

[mogami]

Originally posted by Philbd
I've just joined this forum as a result of buying Uncommon Valor and have followed these postings with interest. In game terms I think Port Moresby is a dead end(along with the pipe dream of invading Aussieland). I feel that the Japanese cannot muster enough troops, ships or aircraft to take Port Moresby against a human player:D

Hi, Welcome aboard. Your not suggesting I give it back are you?

[Philbd]

I prefer my crow served warm thankyou!

I wouldn't necessary give it back. But you could. Then take it back again. My question is do you think you could do it again and does U2 think there was something he could have done or not done to prevent it. Can your stategy produce repeatable results most of the time or is it a fluke. I've played quite a bit against the AI but just started PBEM.

Thanks,
Phil

[U2]

Hi

Two days of 50+ Betty strikes against the allied beach head has left several AKs at the bottom of the Pacific. Mogami is trying to reinforce his forces with the Americal I believe. Heavy fighting on land, sea and air is taking place.
Mogami himself started an air offensive with 50+ B-17s striking Rabaul (arrrrrrrrrrgh!) and 30+ on my forces at San Cristabol. My guess he now has 100-110 heavy bombers on the scene and this my friends changes everything.
Dan





AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 10/15/42


Air attack on 29th Regiment, at 42,43


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 26
SBD Dauntless x 32


Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless x 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 37


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Air attack on TF, near Irau at 42,43

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
A6M3 Zero x 12
D3A Val x 21
G4M1 Betty x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val x 1 destroyed
D3A Val x 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Algorab, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Alcyone, on fire
AK Libra
AK Betelgeuse, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Etamin
AK Alchiba, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
Men lost 84

Attacking Level Bombers:
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Irau at 42,43

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 52
A6M3 Zero x 12
G4M1 Betty x 57

no losses

Allied Ships
AP La Salle, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Fomalhaut, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Rhesus, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Etamin, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Mercury, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Alcyone, on fire
AK Libra, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Adhara, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Diomed, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Alchiba, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Mildura, on fire


Allied ground losses:
Men lost 310
Guns lost 8

Attacking Level Bombers:
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
1 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
3 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
1 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
4 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet
1 x G4M1 Betty at 200 feet

[mogami]

Greetings

From: CinCPac Adm C. Nimitz
To:CSouPac V Adm Ambrose Burnsides III
Subj: Request for Transport

Dear Burny
Regarding this request for more transport shipping to be sent to your command.
What the **** happened to the transports already delivered?
Huh? Let me hear your response to that you **** imbecile.
Regards
Chester

P.S. Pack your bags moron Kiska needs a new leader

[mogami]

Originally posted by Philbd
I prefer my crow served warm thankyou!

I wouldn't necessary give it back. But you could. Then take it back again. My question is do you think you could do it again and does U2 think there was something he could have done or not done to prevent it. Can your stategy produce repeatable results most of the time or is it a fluke. I've played quite a bit against the AI but just started PBEM.

Thanks,
Phil

Greetings, There is no guarenteed capture of Port Moresby (assuming you use variable reinforcment 100percent setting)
I have games in progress where IJN CV remain in Japan and it requires sending almost every thing back and waiting a month or two to get them released. (by which time the allies have PM well garrisoned and stocked with trained bomber groups. Also they have 4+ CV in strong AA TF. (and usally have forced their way onto Lunga and Lae since the IJN is helpless in the face of multiple CV TF and heavt bombers.
So first off Japan needs to see CV's on their way.
Then they need to engage and damage or destroy the 2 USN CV that start on map plus any that have arrived (mid June-mid July)
Rabaul begins the process with night bombing/ day recon of PM.
CV after disposing of USN CV gather at Rabaul to lend their fighters to daylight escort/sweeps of PM. Once fighter superiorty is achived the CV move down to put their bombers into battle.
Also bombardment TF should begin making runs. Use 3-4 CA in first couple (to avoid BB becoming involved in the mandatory surface battle.) Once allied surface forces have been driven away. Bombardment TF containing BB should be sent.
When PM no longer launching strikes/putting up CAP transports carrying at least 1 division should be sent. (only use 2k transports in 1 TF and 1k transports in other. (unloading and crusie speeds differant) The 3k transports should never be exposed to allies (except subs and long range air)
minesweepers should be sent once enemy surface forces removed as well as ASW groups. These TF should remain on station while transports move. (enemy subs are a very real threat to your transports do not move into PM while multiple subs are there. Lae and other bases/CV should be flying LRCAP over PM both to protect your TF and intercept enemy air transports.

[U2]

Hi

For the first time in over a week all is quiet around San Cristabol. No USN TFs spotted in the area and the Americal division has been pushed from the beach and has now joined the Marines north of the base. Today I noticed the first operational A/C group of P-38s. Depressing.........
Dan

[mogami]

"Fledlicksbulg Fledlicksbulg" the cry came through the dank night air reaching the US positions.

"What the hell are those crazy Japs yelling" A young Pvt in the 182nd Infantry Regt Massachusetts National Guard (now part of the Americal Division) asked his sgt.

"Oh their just poking fun at us for coming here after everyone in the universe excepting our brainless leader knew it was hopeless."


"You flucking GI's are so dumb you plobly kill youlselves farrng into ratines"

"Don't you dumbass know when you butt kicked?"

"We take pity on you sirry dumb sits and not kirr you. We send you to home for idiots we have near Tokyo"

[U2]

Hi

I have hired ESL (English as a second langauge) teachers to improve the horrible english level my japanese soldiers have. Insults must be spoken in correct English!:D
Another favourite GI bashing line is "I kill you until you die!"
Dan

[mogami]

Greetings, Dan your troops may in fact be speaking perfect english. It's hard to tell with all the racket. Please have them stop the shelling while I listen to see what they are actually saying.
Several dud arty shells have been found with messages written on them

"Yankee what do you call a New York women with one leg shorter then the other?"......Ileane

"What you call same women in Tokyo?.....Irene"

"PS you some bunch of dummies"

[U2]

Hi

Before departing Truk I gave TOP SECRET orders that the men of the 2nd division take humor courses which they could use against the imperialist dogs of America. Tokyo told me that the GI were not good jungle fighters anyway. Those fools up in Tokyo know nothing!:D
Dan

[mogami]

Howdy, (prepare rant) (aim rant) (fire rant)

Holy Cow!!!! Dan are there any remaing hexes east of Rabaul that you have not place mines on? Good grief at first I was shattered by the loss of my transport fleet but now I realize I can move to any base I choose by hopping from mine to mine.
It looks like one of my SPWAW battles against Tankhead where there were 3-4 rows of mines from top to bottom all along the front. I can see the Japanese military structure

Army 1.5million men
Navy 500 men
Mine warfare 3million men

every man woman child and dog in Japan must be working around the clock building mines. The underwater rail system from Tokyo to Truk with boxcars of mines unloading onto a conveyor belt feeding the relentess flow of minelayers and subs.
A giant gapping maw that mines marked "made in Japan" flow like a river and spill onto my side of the map, advancing like a lava flow from a disgruntled metal spewing volcano.
If one of my ships does a berth change it strikes a Jpanese mine. If one of my sailors on the fan tail at midnight takes a whiz over the rail he is launched into firey obvivion along with the aft end of his ship by whiz detecting mines.
I placed a paper wieght on one of my charts to examine the area and it exploded. Heaven forbid all those mines decide to say F&%$ it all at once and end life in this quadrant of the galaxy in a remake of the big bang.

(cease rant)

[U2]

Hi Mogami

Yes, I have mined many hexes.
Dan