Gary VS Red World Cup battle Round 1

Gary Tatro · Post by **Gary Tatro** » Mon Jul 08, 2002 12:58 am

Alternate History: The Germans learning from history had decided that the War with Russia would be prolonged and last a couple of years, thus prepared in advance for the Russian winter. Also the other German Generals had been able to convince Hitler that the Ukranian people would better serve the German interests if the Germans treated them well. Both of these decisions created enough goodwill and intiative for the Germans to take Moscow and Leningrad in the Fall of 1942. Russia surrender in November 1942. Forcing the Americans to enter the war early and deal with Russians as a Axis power similar to Vichy France.

Date: June 1943
Situation: Small meeting engagement (4000 points) between Russian-(Played by Red) and US-(Played by Gary Tatro)
Turns-20
Visibility-15
Artillary 10% max
Air strikes - 0
No air drops on turn 1
All realisms on including Rarity, except Command and Control.
Map is mostly hill with s group of forests in the center-north and center-south with a small 4 building town right in the center.

red · Post by **red** » Mon Jul 08, 2002 7:26 am

I had an alternative explanation to this engagement:

Soviet Union pre-emptively attacked Germany on June 1st, 1941. Thousands of bombers made their deadly runs onto German formations being assembled. German air force managed to destroy many of them but it was too late as their front line airfields were overrun by fast moving BTs and T-34s. Simulateneously massive paradrops along the rail roads leading from Germany to Eastern Europe and coordinated sabotage actions blocked German supply lines.

By summer 1943, the war was being fought in the heart of Europe. Convinced by Churchil that Communist aggression must be stopped after signing a haste cease fire with the Germans, Roosvelt orders American GIs to deploy in Europe.

G_X · Post by **G_X** » Mon Jul 08, 2002 8:57 am

I like Red's form better, if only because it'd be more what I think this battle might turn out to be, Communism Vs. Capitalism.

But that's me

Gary Tatro · Post by **Gary Tatro** » Tue Jul 09, 2002 1:56 am

I like Red alternate reality too. But my computer didn't. Red I got the "Saved game failed to load" Did you exit the game quickly after you exited the deploy screen? This is what makes this happen. Well it does not really matter. All you have to do is reload. Repurchase and redeploy. Sorry I know deployment takes forever.

red · Post by **red** » Tue Jul 09, 2002 2:05 am

hmmm, you know I got security warning when i loaded it, do u think different oobs could cause the 'Saved game failed to load' error?

Gary Tatro · Post by **Gary Tatro** » Tue Jul 09, 2002 3:56 am

cause it to not save correctly. I have played a bunch of games with OOB warnings. The OOB warning comes from two players playing with different OOB's.
I am playing with version 7.1 with no OOB changes.

red · Post by **red** » Tue Jul 09, 2002 3:29 pm

Gary, did you receive my email with the game file? I just got "message undeliverable" from yahoo on your account but don't know which one.

Gary Tatro · Post by **Gary Tatro** » Tue Jul 09, 2002 4:27 pm

I got the game. I will not be able to get to it until tonight or tommorrow though.

red · Post by **red** » Tue Jul 09, 2002 4:31 pm

No problem, just wanted to make sure it got to you.

Gary Tatro · Post by **Gary Tatro** » Wed Jul 10, 2002 9:38 am

We can't see them, but we hear them and UGH smell them. There is nothing worse than a stinky communist. Maybe we should replace our boys Bazookas with Water hoses. That way they could spray them down when they saw them.
Well Dick that might help in cleaning up the REDS for thier Mrs. but I am not sure how much it would help with the war effort.
You have got to be kidding Bob, just think of how much more accepting the world would be of communists if they just weren't so stinky.
Well that is all the time we have for today.
I am Bob
and I am Dick
Join us next time on World Cup War Talk when we discuss the tactics and strategies used by Team USA in their quest for the World Cup title.

red · Post by **red** » Wed Jul 10, 2002 4:16 pm

Our forward elements report seeing only enemy's recon units in the north with some armor in the south. In the back some scouts made smoke signals either overcoming their broken radios or creating diversion from their artillery smoke foot prints.

Also NKVD reports of a new weapon being used by US infantry, something called WAT-ER-HOSE. It is supposed to make us really wet and wanting to go home. What are they smoking? I guess waterhoses.

Gary Tatro · Post by **Gary Tatro** » Wed Jul 10, 2002 6:04 pm

Bob whats going on down there.
Not much Dick, the US boys have trashed the sh*t out of a bunch of poor MC bikers. But besides that just a lot of menuvering. Seems boths sides are moving slow and taking their time.
Well Bob it seems our boys are not moving as slow as the commies they have taken all but one of the victory hexes in the middle of the map.
Yes Dick I did not notice that before but your are right. Did you see that group of Calvery up north. Maybe that is where the smell is comming from.
I am not sure Bob but that is all the time we have for today. Join us next time on World Cup talk when we talk about the difference between a Bazooka and Armor.

Gary Tatro · Post by **Gary Tatro** » Wed Jul 10, 2002 10:29 pm

I am your host Bob and with me here to day is Dick
Hello, today we want to talk about the merits of charging a T34 with a group or Rangers. Well Bob what do you think.
Well Dick I don't think that it is a good idea, unless of course that T34 is supressed. Lets go to the Video. Here we can see Team USA's rangers coming out of a wall of smoke and Oh BLAM get blasted by that T34.
Ouch that must have hurt, eh Bob. Well that is all the time we have for today. Join us next time when we go over the merits of sneaking.

red · Post by **red** » Thu Jul 11, 2002 1:39 am

So the northern village is protected by a few rangers and an AT gun. the southern vhexes are unontested right now as each side waits on the other to move. I never liked US artillery playing against it, they are way too quick to respond suppressing any advance. I had my artillery commander shot already for being late and bad aim so we'll see if the new one is better.

Gary Tatro · Post by **Gary Tatro** » Thu Jul 11, 2002 10:10 am

I am your host Bob and with me is Dick. So Dick what has happened down there today.
Well Bob it seems that a T34 advanced without infantry support out of the smoke and into ATG fire. Advancing the armor unescorted by infantry seems foolish to me Bob, but what happend.
Well Dick that T34 almost was lite up like a christmas tree, but quickly retreated behind the smoke it appeared out of. So what do we have to look forward to.
I am not sure Bob both sides seem to be performing light probes and doing a lot of menuvers. While pounding the othe side with artillary.
Well that looks like all the time we have for today. Join us next time when we talk about the merits of Calvery.

red · Post by **red** » Thu Jul 11, 2002 4:57 pm

couple of amercan recon units are not answering their radios now. I'm setting up my security perimeter before advancing any further to make sure I'm not outflanked.

Did I say I don't like their arty? Yes, I did.

red · Post by **red** » Thu Jul 11, 2002 8:02 pm

I'm cautiously advancing setting up security perimeter and trying to avoid an ambush. A couple of recon units got killed and another squad scared off. No sign of armor yet. Hmmm, interesting.

Gary Tatro · Post by **Gary Tatro** » Fri Jul 12, 2002 1:22 am

I am Bob your host and with me is Dick and what a exciting few minutes have we had hear Dick. Three T-34 destoyed, dead horses all over the place and the reserves located.
What a show indead for team USA Bob. They located the USSR's reserve and made there move in the North. Rangers and M8 Stagehounds moved in with a vengence. Three T34's explode, motor cycle wheels every where, and almost a platoon of dead calvery. I am not sure if team USSR will be able to recover from this one Bob. Then to add insult to injury team USA pounded the reserve with all of its available artillary. Ouch thats gota hurt. Well that is all the time we have for today join us next time when we discuss the merits of 2 companies of Rangers versus a Platoon of M4's.

red · Post by **red** » Fri Jul 12, 2002 4:32 pm

my reserve co. was suppressed by that darn arty and is stuck in the tracks. that one rogue squad just had to peek over the ridge. good job Gary. oh well.

the only other highlight of this engagement besides my reserve being discovered is M10 Wolverine killing M10 Wolverine. Friendly fire you ask, I don't think so.

G_X · Post by **G_X** » Fri Jul 12, 2002 10:35 pm

"Friendly fire isn't."

So the USSR is using it's Lend/Lease against America?

Gary VS Red World Cup battle Round 1

Gary VS Red World Cup battle Round 1

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No I am pretty sure that that does not

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