Unit´s Omission?????

gorgias96 · Post by **gorgias96** » Wed Oct 04, 2000 8:18 pm

I´ve been playing the japanese campaing with the new WaW v. 4.2 and i´ve observed a rare omission. Two units the 75mm Type 88 (heavy flak) and the Type 95 Scout (scout vehicle) don´t appear in any where.
Both of them are displayed in the enciclopedy but it´s impossible purchase in some formation or upgrade units screen.
What class of extrange error is this? Has anybody observed this too?
The most extrange is that in v. 4 and in "games" saved of that version i have 75mm flaks in my army.
Is it a simple oversight or is there any "historical" reason? Would i must modify the OOB for correct it?

Please comprove it and say to me if you had observed the same.

Thx

AbramsGunner · Post by **AbramsGunner** » Wed Oct 04, 2000 8:26 pm

I saw the same thing after beating the Polish in the first battle of a german long campaign in September 1939, i go to upgrade my armored car to a pzkmpf IIIe and IT'S NOT THERE! only armored car and light tanks are shown (all other units are present too) Where are the Med tanks at?

David F. Wall · Post by **David F. Wall** » Wed Oct 04, 2000 8:26 pm

I don't know, but it sounds similar to the problem I was having with Coastal Guns in the British OOB. Comments, anyone?

Blackbird · Post by **Blackbird** » Wed Oct 04, 2000 8:43 pm

Originally posted by gorgias96:
I´ve been playing the japanese campaing with the new WaW v. 4.2 and i´ve observed a rare omission. Two units the 75mm Type 88 (heavy flak) and the Type 95 Scout (scout vehicle) don´t appear in any where.

Please comprove it and say to me if you had observed the same.

Thx

I have the same problem, but with Maus.
And there are some strange costs of some units. Russian pioneers and engineers have the same cost, but pioneers have +10exp.?
And the same thing with some tanks. Or am I missing something?

Voriax · Post by **Voriax** » Wed Oct 04, 2000 9:15 pm

Hello

A number of new unit types was introduced in 4.1. This has caused situations where some new types have no formations. For example that Maus is now classed 'Super heavy tank' so it will not appear in any other kind of formations.
When you find cases where some unit is unavailable please compile a list and post it at the 4.1 oob bug thread, thus it might eventually be fixed

Abramsgunner, when I start a random battle in sept. 39 those Pz-IIIe's are available.
It may be possible that the upgrade code now does not allow change from armoured car to med tank. Did you have any other tanks, and if you did were you able to change them to Pz-III's?

blackbird, the +10 units are elite units. Other countries also have them, there is also second line -10 troops. As the pricing in oob's are based (roughly) based on firepower and not experience you see them priced same.
Also, did you have true troop cost option on or off?

Voriax

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Paul Vebber · Post by **Paul Vebber** » Wed Oct 04, 2000 9:37 pm

What happened was I changed some of those unit classes and made up formations for them but in the final production process managed to overwrite the formation templates, so the formations vanished...

We will see about a "quick fix" to get the units back available ASAP.

Tankhead · Post by **Tankhead** » Wed Oct 04, 2000 9:44 pm

Originally posted by Paul Vebber:
What happened was I changed some of those unit classes and made up formations for them but in the final production process managed to overwrite the formation templates, so the formations vanished...
We will see about a "quick fix" to get the units back available ASAP.

Thanks Paul!

Appreciate your hard working to please all of us, even the ones you can't please.

Tankhead

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Warhorse · Post by **Warhorse** » Wed Oct 04, 2000 11:04 pm

This problem seems to be with all the latest classes that were put in, NO UPGRADES!! Like was said in another thread, the mech exe is like a bowl of jello, you push here to fix one bug, another pushes up over there;-(

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Meine Ehre Heisst Treue

Blackbird · Post by **Blackbird** » Thu Oct 05, 2000 3:27 am

Originally posted by Voriax:
Hello

blackbird, the +10 units are elite units. Other countries also have them, there is also second line -10 troops. As the pricing in oob's are based (roughly) based on firepower and not experience you see them priced same.
Also, did you have true troop cost option on or off?

But in some cases the same unit with more exp costs more, and some units have same price as them with more exp. Get it?

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All options but CC are on.

gorgias96 · Post by **gorgias96** » Thu Oct 05, 2000 8:32 pm

Yes it´s true I just observe it. The new "class" Heavy Flak and some others too don´t have formation that include them. I´ll fix it with the OOB editor.

Thx to everybody for confirm what i suspected

Sturmtiger · Post by **Sturmtiger** » Fri Oct 06, 2000 1:29 am

Got the same problem here. Wanted to upgrade my heavy trucks to "sdkfz-7" - it's not available... Same with the "Pz-IIIe" "Pz-38t" and "Pz-35t"... Anyone having an idea how to fix that???