Teaching in the USA?

[Jonathan Pollard]

I know that the USA has an immigration lottery, and if Sweden is an eligible country (AFAIK most European countries are eligible) your chances of winning might be quite good if you don't have much competition. You would be competing only against other Swedish entrys in the lottery.

[Zap]

ORIGINAL: Kung Karl

Well, I don't want to leave Sweden for good. I love my country very much but I just thought it would be a good experience.

Anyway, you guys have comfirmed my doubts so I will probably stay here in Sweden. I have a good job now that I like very much. The problem is that the numbers of students will go down in the coming years so I thought maybe now was the time to try something new for a while until the jobs is coming back.

Thanks for the info guys, now I can safley put my thoughs about moving to the US at rest. I will go there for a vacation though. I realy want to see the Minnesota Vikings in action. Next year Adrian Peterson will run all the way to the super bowl!

What happens when governments try to control the population. [8|] Or as stated above women have the same outlook as they do here. In either case what a shame.

[cdbeck]

ORIGINAL: Doggie

It aint "racial politics"; it's the truth. Why not tell him the way things are? The truth is educated people from places like Australia and Western Europe are not welcome in the United States. The INS really will hunt them down and deport them. We're not kidding here. It's no joke. But we can't deport an illegal alien from Central America even after he serves time in prison.

This has nothing to do with political opinions; it's a simple irrefutable fact. Politics come into why things are this way. A guy from Sweden has just about no chance of getting a visa to work in the United States.

This is so ridiculous, it barely deserves a response. First, if an immigrant is illegal, then by definition the person did not go through the proper channels and is a irrelevant comparison to someone seeking a temporary work visa. Many countries have illegal immigration, and the problem seems far removed from the situation here.

Second, I would hardly call your bold statement "irrefutable fact." Show me INS policy to deny Europeans and allow Central Americans. I think, if you could find official policy, you would see that it is easier for employed and skilled Europeans to immigrate than equally employed and skilled South and Central Americans. My friend's UK wife got her work visa in six months, and she previously was granted a temporary visa (without being married) to teach for a year (which is what this person wants). Many Europeans do this. No one is arguing that illegal immigration is <easier>, at least bureaucratically, but it is still illegal.

SoM

[Kung Karl]

ORIGINAL: Prince of Eckmühl

ORIGINAL: Kung Karl

The problem is that the numbers of students will go down in the coming years so I thought maybe now was the time to try something new for a while until the jobs is coming back.

Is Sweden's birth rate still declining?

It is just a bumb for a few years. It will turn around soon again. At the lower level there is a big demand for teachers so no need to worry in the long run.

[Prince of Eckmühl]

ORIGINAL: Kung Karl

It is just a bumb for a few years. It will turn around soon again. At the lower level there is a big demand for teachers so no need to worry in the long run.

Good deal. And please don't let anything that was mentioned in this discussion discourage you from seeking employment, temporary or permanent, in the USA. We need more smart people here, LOTS OF THEM!

PoE (aka ivanmoe)

[Tomus]

ORIGINAL: Son_of_Montfort

ORIGINAL: Doggie

It aint "racial politics"; it's the truth. Why not tell him the way things are? The truth is educated people from places like Australia and Western Europe are not welcome in the United States. The INS really will hunt them down and deport them. We're not kidding here. It's no joke. But we can't deport an illegal alien from Central America even after he serves time in prison.

This has nothing to do with political opinions; it's a simple irrefutable fact. Politics come into why things are this way. A guy from Sweden has just about no chance of getting a visa to work in the United States.

This is so ridiculous, it barely deserves a response. First, if an immigrant is illegal, then by definition the person did not go through the proper channels and is a irrelevant comparison to someone seeking a temporary work visa. Many countries have illegal immigration, and the problem seems far removed from the situation here.

Second, I would hardly call your bold statement "irrefutable fact." Show me INS policy to deny Europeans and allow Central Americans. I think, if you could find official policy, you would see that it is easier for employed and skilled Europeans to immigrate than equally employed and skilled South and Central Americans. My friend's UK wife got her work visa in six months, and she previously was granted a temporary visa (without being married) to teach for a year (which is what this person wants). Many Europeans do this. No one is arguing that illegal immigration is <easier>, at least bureaucratically, but it is still illegal.

SoM

That said its easier to kick out a European from the US as it doesn't create such a political issue than it does trying to deport South Americans.

Look at the UK, 12 years of uncontrolled third world immigration without the government batting an eyelid and most of the press claiming how marvellous and how diverse we are all becoming...then we get 2 years when a couple of hundred thousand hardworking highly skilled Poles come in and suddenly we are being swamped...

[06 Maestro]

ORIGINAL: Tomus
Look at the UK, 12 years of uncontrolled third world immigration without the government batting an eyelid and most of the press claiming how marvellous and how diverse we are all becoming...then we get 2 years when a couple of hundred thousand hardworking highly skilled Poles come in and suddenly we are being swamped...

That is what you call social engineering, but the kind that is worked out in the Star Rooms-no need to confuse the common man with all these details. Seriously though, this is clearly a plan by those in power.

[06 Maestro]

ORIGINAL: Son_of_Montfort
This is so ridiculous, it barely deserves a response. First, if an immigrant is illegal, then by definition the person did not go through the proper channels and is a irrelevant comparison to someone seeking a temporary work visa. Many countries have illegal immigration, and the problem seems far removed from the situation here.

Second, I would hardly call your bold statement "irrefutable fact." Show me INS policy to deny Europeans and allow Central Americans. I think, if you could find official policy, you would see that it is easier for employed and skilled Europeans to immigrate than equally employed and skilled South and Central Americans. My friend's UK wife got her work visa in six months, and she previously was granted a temporary visa (without being married) to teach for a year (which is what this person wants). Many Europeans do this. No one is arguing that illegal immigration is <easier>, at least bureaucratically, but it is still illegal.

SoM

I could not find the current total quotas allowed from nations of/by birth, but I clearly recall that up to a few years ago Mexico was allotted well over half of total legal immigration.

The simple truth is that Latino's have increased from about 1% of the population to approx 15% in 40 years. Most of that change has occurred in the past twenty years-and it is accelerating. While these people are known to eh, how shall I say this, have large families, this magnitude of increase was only possible through massive migration from the south- legal and otherwise. By 2042 (I'm sure a very conservative/less threatening figure) White non Hispanic will be a minority. By 2050< Latino's will make up 30% of the US population-I doubt that they are including the 40 million illegals that will be here by that time.

I do not have enough info to debate the treatment of illegal's based on their nation of birth. I do have an English buddy who has gotten his U.S. citizenship-years ago. He married an English woman- and then his tribulations began. It took him over a year to get her here-even though he was a U.S. citizen. He had very good knowledge of the system. He would frequently point out the absurdity of the current system. We are clearly awash with millions of Mexicans that the government apparently won't do anything about. I recall reading about a German fellow. He was an auto body/painter for many years here. Paid his taxes and broke no laws (except the immigration law). After he was caught, he was paraded around several states for six months before finally expelling him fro the States.

Fortunately, illegals can be deported, although if they have been here a while, it gets more complicated. The Border Patrol actually does a decent job for the resources they have. In years past, it had been estimated that approx 90% of illegal border crossing were successfully intercepted. At times, this represented 20,000 people-per day-that is right; per day. It was estimated that approx 2,000 per day would slip through the cracks. It will soon be a non issue. As soon as the new immigration amnesty is passed, the current 50 million illegals (ok, quasi illegal) will invite their "families" here.
What a brave new world. Habla Espanole?

[Doggie]

ORIGINAL: Son_of_Montfort


Second, I would hardly call your bold statement "irrefutable fact." Show me INS policy to deny Europeans and allow Central Americans.

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As your location is given as "Marseille, France", pardon me if I believe you have absolutely no understanding of the subject.

"Under the porch" is here in Raleigh, North Carolina, where the hispanic population has gone from zero to fifteen percent in as many years. This area is also home to several world class universities, and there are a number of foreign students attending classes here. I have known dozens of them from western Europe, as well as the foreign born spouses of American miltary personel living near the numerous military bases in North Carolina. All of them endure unending harrassment from the INS, while illegal aliens thrive here.

University graduates from western Europe find it it virtually impossible to obtain a residence visa, while computer geeks from India and Pakistan fly in on tourist visas and never leave. A European must have an international driver's license issued in his country of origin, just as I had when I lived in Europe. The State of North Carolina issues NC driver's licenses to residents of Central America based on an I.D. from the mexican consul. That I.D. card is issued on the applicant's word alone:

in some locations, when an individual seeking a Matricula Consular is unable to produce any documents whatsoever, he will still be issued a Matricula Consular by the Mexican consular official, if he fills out a questionnaire and satisfies the official that he is who he purports to be.

Nobody else can do that. I can't do that. If I lose my driver's license, I got to cough up a birth certificate, passport, or miltary I.D. before I can replace it. Only Hispanic immigrants are able to secure a legal I.D. card on their word alone. If you, as resident of France, were to be caught driving without an international driver's license and a valid residence visa, you[ would be locked up and deported at your own expense.

Illegal immigrants are simply released, like this guy

Trooper Beckley Vaughan of the North Carolina Highway Patrol said that after Vicente is released from the hospital, he will face charges of careless and reckless driving and operating without a license.

Vaughan said troopers also intend to investigate whether Vicente is in the United States legally. Vicente does not speak English and told investigators, via a translator, that he has been in the U.S. looking for work for two years.

$2,000 dollar bond means he walks after producing $200 in cash. A quick trip to the Mexican consul gets him a new I.D.

This happens every week here. Illegal immigrants, often driving drunk, kill scores of people, driving with no license and no insurance, and they are rarely deported.
But what do I know? I only live here.

[Erik Rutins]

Hi all,

Thread locked. This is not the place for these discussions, thanks. In the future, can we please try to not tangent off on side issues and stick to the original poster's questions?

Regards,

- Erik