Never get involved in a land war in Asia

[herwin]

ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth

Hate to say it but having to fight a land war in China almost makes me sorry I bought this. I have no interest in this and resent the fact that that I have to come to terms with an area of the conflict I was never interested in. It really detracts from an otherwise excellent game. This is like a big side dish of lima beans and Brussels sprouts one has eat before they get their ice cream.
I hate it

China was the reason for the whole exercise. The South and Central Pacific had no strategic objectives--none. Japan grabbed the East Indies and adjacent areas to get enough resources to allow it to prosecute the war in China. You can get by with putting the Chinese campaign on a back burner while the smash and grab exercise plays out, but you have to maintain focus on the original goal if you want a chance at strategic victory.

[Erik Rutins]

Advice for now is to ignore China if you're not interested in it, it can be rewarding to pay attention to it, but you will not likely lose the war by ignoring it.

[Dili]

With Witp i liked China theatre as variance to too much Pacific water [:D]. Now with strategic movements, reserves and such it might even be more interesting.

[Swayin]

ORIGINAL: Ryan Jackson

ORIGINAL: romanovich

I wouldn't have bought the game if China had been excluded. WITP set out to recreate the war in all theaters. That's why there was nothing quite like it - and now there's nothing quite like AE. Much less novelty to something like "Naval warfare in the Pacific in WW2", which is what you seemed interested in. Sorry WITP AE isn't for you.

But isn't the "naval warfare in the pacific in WW2" how the game is marketed? Isn't it entitled "the Admiral's Edition"? What should I take away from that title?

Oh brother. So it needs to say "Admiral's Edition with that silly land war in China too" to be accurate? come on.

[AttuWatcher]

Personally I'm really looking forward to learning the intricacies of the land war in China. It's another layer of depth for possibilities in strategic thought and operations.
As was said, China is THE reason for the Pacific war; as someone who has at least some interest in history I would consider WITP/AE an incomplete game without it. It's exclusion would certainly detract from my overall interest in the game.

As Dili noted it provides variance. Massive land and sea war in one game is always good in my book!

[Mistmatz]

When I first played WitP I was glad to see at least some real land war in China (albeit on a very high level) and not only boring old steel moving across the ocean.

This might have to do with the fact that I'm german and came from GGs War in Russia and similar european theater based games. Of course in the meantime I grew fond of that boring old steel limping across half the globe... [;)]

[ImaginaryBaron]

I was initially upset when I saw that there was no option to hand the Chinese theater over to the computer, but if it's in the name of better AI, I can accept that. The stronger AI was the primary reason I bought AE in the first place. In my current game I just pulled the Chinese forces that were in the field back to a defensive line of cities where I shouldn't have to worry about micromanaging them. 

[Speedysteve]

This is my take on it also SamuraiGGG. Once in situ in strong defences you shouldn't have to worry about China changing too much against the AI I *THINK*.

[Banquet]

ORIGINAL: Speedy

This is my take on it also SamuraiGGG. Once in situ in strong defences you shouldn't have to worry about China changing too much against the AI I *THINK*.

I'm hoping the same

[Charbroiled]

Not having China in a game about the "War in the Pacific 1941-1945" is like excluding France from a game about WWI.

The China campaign can have some interesting aspects to it. Don't concentrate on the land war too much, put your focus on the air war. Use China as a learning ground on how the system works. Move units around using the different LCU settings to see how they function. Put the air units in China into different configurations (i.e. 70% Cap/30% rest) and see what the effects over time are. Run sweep missions at differt altitudes and see what happens. China is an area where you can test some new things out without messing up your situation in the rest of the game.

[jazman]

What we need is the war starting in 1933. "The Great Asia-Pacific War: 1933-1946"

[lostsm]

ORIGINAL: jazman

What we need is the war starting in 1933. "The Great Asia-Pacific War: 1933-1946"

2 years of game time only at war with china[:'(] i'd have all of china conquered and everything ready for a real massive invasion come dec 7 '41

edit: woops you wrote 33... well now that i think about it, 8 years is a bit over the top

[Cmdrcain]

China is needed, don't forget Japan side  is in china to gain resources, theres resources that can be moved to Japan


As they say if don't want the bother, just don't do things in China.

[Avenger]

ORIGINAL: Charbroiled

Not having China in a game about the "War in the Pacific 1941-1945" is like excluding France from a game about WWI.

I am here to fight massive tank battles against the Soviets. Kharkov! Guderian and Paulus. I prefer to leave the frenchies out of my WW2. Heh.

[88l71]

ORIGINAL: Cmdrcain

China is needed, don't forget Japan side  is in china to gain resources, theres resources that can be moved to Japan

Or if you're the Allies at least you can try to prevent the Japanese from capturing resource bases and play defensively.

[Fishbed]

ORIGINAL: Avenger

ORIGINAL: Charbroiled

Not having China in a game about the "War in the Pacific 1941-1945" is like excluding France from a game about WWI.

I am here to fight massive tank battles against the Soviets. Kharkov! Guderian and Paulus. I prefer to leave the frenchies out of my WW2. Heh.

Maybe next time you may try not to leave your brain out of your skull. Heh.

[Avenger]

Please, It was a joke.

[ny59giants]

bump...
 
I'm looking through the threads to find some info on China, Burma/India, and Java defenses as the Allies. I know there was some good info done by Andy, some other developers, and testers on these theaters of operations. If anybody finds them first, please bump or link them here. 

[emorbius44]

Hate to say it but having to fight a land war in China almost makes me sorry I bought this. I have no interest in this and resent the fact that that I have to come to terms with an area of the conflict I was never interested in. It really detracts from an otherwise excellent game. This is like a big side dish of lima beans and Brussels sprouts one has eat before they get their ice cream.
I hate it

In my long running e-mail game I found China very useful. I slowly withdrew infantry divisions from there that had 90+ experience ratings, I captured the large oil field that gave me an extra 125 oil points and, given the simpler pilot experience rating system in WITP, I used the hapless Chinese ground units as targets for my air force to train bombers and fighters to get more combat experience.

Bob