ORIGINAL: larssto
Hmm....Maybe I am using the wrong setup file, but in mine the 1-5 CAV is a DIV. Which leaves the USSR with 50% chance of getting a 5-mover corps in Asia/Pacific.
Given the setup of your original post (
Post 113), I would have thought that the Persian AIO would choose a
Border type defense with its CAV in Bandar Shah, praying for intervention from the Japs. One or more 5-5 SCS with a DIV from Canton/Hainan or a 4-4 TRS floating in the 0 Box in the South china Sea, should be able to put peacekeepers in Teheran in one impulse. Whether a Japanese AIO would be smart enough to spot the potential threat to Persia and have these units in position is another matter.
A way to focre the Persian AIO's hand and have it setup its unit in Teheran is to have a simultaenous western threat to Persia, i.e. a land unit on the western shores of the Caspian. This means more units will have to be stripped from Siberia, making a Japanese adventure in Siberia even more likely, assuming the USSR still wants to DOW in turn 1.
Convoy route 6 as originally proposed does make sense if the Japanese AIO spots a USSR threat to Persia. It's a very low-risk option as Japan is not at war with anyone that will sink its convoys, and the convoys can be retrieved later if the threat disappears.
I think that any USSR adventurism in Persia will need to be decisive, and will necessarily be a high-risk high-reward type decision. Where is Stalin's spy in Tokyo? [:)]
Lars
Your right its a Cavalry division I just need it to soak up losses and claim gound. It moves with the 2 Siberians.
Excellent plan. But you can rail a unit from Europe to Bakau on the 1st impulse and not strip more units from Siberia.
Richard Sorge, Stalin's spy in Tokyo, is getting information on Japanese tankers gathering in Canton.
brian brian post # 152
[font=arial]The only Japanese unit that could reach Teheran on the first Axis impulse would be a division that was already stacked in Hainan or Canton with one of their Kongo class battlecruisers, their only transport option with range 5, which would be needed to do a port-to-port move to Bandar Shupar so the unit could then rail-move to Teheran if the Russians hadn't used a 5 movement point CAV to ZoC the rail line. Any unit coming in from a TRS could only debark, which comes after rail movement. Adding a disorganized, quite-soon-to-be-out-of-supply division to Teheran adds very little to the defensive strength of the hex. Or if the Japanese had a unit in an East African port they could accomplish this, but that requires it's own multi-impulse op to set up.[/font]
Japanese intervention in Teheran is just not that simple or even very likely. War in Persia is all about who controls the oil wells.
No this is about who can control Persia and its oil.
The amount of time necessary to construct a CP is 4 turns a Tanker is 5 turns so until any new builds come out the Japanese have the capacity to get 1 oil from Persia if they can set up the convoy line.
For a time, the Japanese can deny the USSR the oil. But the Japanese can only ship one oil per turn from Persia.
If the Japanese player hasn’t converted his CP’s to Tankers at start he doesn’t have the CP’s to convert to Tankers to set up the convoy line at all.
At the start of any friendly impulse, a player may freely convert any of their face-up convoy points in port into tanker points, or vice versa.
When doing so, it takes 2 convoy points to convert into 1 tanker point, or 2 tanker points to convert into 1 convoy point.
Unless the Russians have CW help or an expensive (with Barbarossa on the horizon) Paratrooper unit laboriously deployed to within range of Bandar Shupar or the northern oil hex, requiring an HQ or Engineer in several of the potential base hexes (And now the three oil resources are in three separate hexes to make this more complicated), the Japanese will have the option of intervening and landing their own units on at least two of the oil wells.
I disagree with the need for CW support or paratroop units.
By “the Japanese will have the option of intervening” do you mean the Japanese can DoW the USSR or do you mean “Japanese peacekeepers”?
The Persians can also just simply set-up their CAV in Bandar Shupar for additional insurance that the Japanese troops will have a port to land in and this would also put a ZoC on two of the oil wells, making things fairly risky for a Russian para-drop as well as fairly difficult for a CW landing in 1940 with the very limited liftable assets they could have by then.
If the Persians set up their Cavalry in Bandar Shupar the USSR marches into Teheran unopposed and Persia falls.
If the Persians set up their Cavalry in Teheran the USSR can attack at 6 to 1 odds (if you use OPTION 67 that’s a +11 to the die roll).
1 – 5 Cavalry
6 – 4 Siberian
5 – 4 Siberian
At least 6 points of tac air
On the assault chart a +11 has a:
20% chance nothing happens
20% chance the USSR takes 2 losses the Persians are destroyed
30% chance the USSR takes 1 loss the Persians are destroyed (I would loose the 1 – 5 Cavalry)
30% chance the USSR takes NO losses the Persians are destroyed
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