I appreciate DW much more now.

Distant Worlds is a vast, pausable real-time, 4X space strategy game which models a "living galaxy" with incredible options for replayability and customizability. Experience the full depth and detail of large turn-based strategy games, but with the simplicity and ease of real-time, and on the scale of a massively-multiplayer online game. Now greatly enhanced with the new Universe release, which includes all four previous releases as well as the new Universe expansion!

Moderators: Icemania, elliotg

User avatar
Hertston
Posts: 3317
Joined: Sat Aug 17, 2002 3:45 pm
Location: Cornwall, UK

RE: I appreciate DW much more now.

Post by Hertston »

ORIGINAL: the1sean

That said, I cant stand devs that release completely unfinished games; I have much more tolerance for devs that work hard to patch and listen to player input.

I'm not quite sure what the difference is? It's only a matter of degree, surely. And, contrary to Baleur's comment SR is an 'actual game' that is quite playable as-is; it just has a lot of stuff that needs adding to it. As I said, I was somewhat surprised at how much still needed adding to meet my expectations, but it does say something for the game that despite that incompleteness the response to it so far has been far more positive than negative. I'd probably still be meddling with it, despite my earlier comment, if they hadn't just released Elemental which I suspect will occupy me for the next few weeks.
User avatar
Erik Rutins
Posts: 39653
Joined: Tue Mar 28, 2000 4:00 pm
Location: Vermont, USA
Contact:

RE: I appreciate DW much more now.

Post by Erik Rutins »

Hi guys,

Just a reminder that, when discussing other games, criticism is best directed to their official forums and kept constructive. Comparing other games to DW is fine and should be in this forum, but if the discussion becomes strictly a discussion of other games, it should go in the General Discussion forum.

Regards,

- Erik
Erik Rutins
CEO, Matrix Games LLC


Image

For official support, please use our Help Desk: http://www.matrixgames.com/helpdesk/

Freedom is not Free.
Salient
Posts: 64
Joined: Sun Aug 03, 2003 10:14 pm
Location: Belgium
Contact:

RE: I appreciate DW much more now.

Post by Salient »

Just burned my card... downloading now, as a huge 4x fun I hope it's as good as people in here say![:)]
Well be back after giving it a ride tonite!
It's better to follow your intuition than a truck, except in Belgium while wanna go to England
Fideach
Posts: 175
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:14 am

RE: I appreciate DW much more now.

Post by Fideach »

There are things I like about Star Ruler; but DW is a lot more complete and enjoyable.
Though I wish we had a lot of the components Star Ruler has for the ships, in DW.
I would like to see a game mix the good from both together.
User avatar
Simulation01
Posts: 540
Joined: Wed May 12, 2010 8:10 pm

RE: I appreciate DW much more now.

Post by Simulation01 »

ORIGINAL: Warspite3
ORIGINAL: Simulation01

The facts are that PC gaming is dying.  The large developers are going the way of the Dinosaurs.  We will no longer be able to demand video and depth.  We will be forced to choose between video and depth, but will rarely get both.  This is occurring because of the improving quality of consoles, high PC prices, pirating and rights destroying DRM.  There are some developers that I can't stand and who deserve to be pirated...like EA ( Will Wright and that pile of fecal matter known as Spore, though why anyone would want to pirate Spore is beyond me ).

I chose to buy Distant Worlds because of the concepts introduced and I will buy Star Ruler tomorrow for the same reasons.  I want to support talented people and fan loving developers when I see them obviously trying to provide a quality product to a niche market. 

Also, from what I've read on the forums, and this came from the developers, Star Ruler is already making enough money to sustain development:

http://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/37 ... 5/#2721022

Facts? Where are you getting facts that PC gaming is dying? Many lead people in the gaming industry (including Sid Meier) already confirmed this is in fact NOT the case. I don't know why some people still continue to state this and its simple not true. I mean seriously, Starcraft II was just released, Civ5 is around the corner, shipsim xtremes is due out in 5 days, digital distribution sales are sky rocketing! What IS dying is... the days of going to a store and buying a PC game. This is not a bad thing, I love the digital now for many reasons. No more worrying about a box with no room to put it, no more worrying about hunting for a CD that eventually ends up scratched. It feels good to be able to pick my game and play it without having the CD in the drive. If I restore my computer, I loadup steam or any of the other sites, all my games are right there to download. Then on top of this, no more hunting the net for the latest patches. You download the game and its up to date. I am all for digital distribution now. So this is the direction PC gaming is heading. PC games are becoming scarse in stores because it is more efficient to download them online now and most people are doing this. Another thing, so many times in the past I remember calling all the Gamestops in my area only to find out they are out of stock on a game I wanted. Then having to drive an hour or more away just to get it.


Well, Sid Meier said it so that's it! Whew, I was worried until Sid said it. Golly gee I sure am relieved. Sid, is releasing a game this year, so yeah he's not gonna say anything to dishearten you. I am 29. I played the original Civilization and I look back on MicroProse with a fondness you can't imagine. There used to be cool and interesting games streaming to the public, but not now. Now, all we get are yearly installments of Madden and Need for speed. The heady days of Microprose, Master of Orion, Civilization, Red Alert, Lords of Magic are drawing to a close. How long has it been since Civ IV Beyond the Sword was released? What were we given in the intervening years...? Civ Rev? Excuse me, but you can keep that garbage.

You mention Starcraft II. Starcraft was an awesome game and I rank it among civilization in terms of hours played and fun, but shouldn't starcraft II been more than it's predecessor? All we got with SCII was a rehash of what we all played in the original. There was nothing new and innovative, and that is indicative of the entire industry. Every year we get the same games we've gotten before, but with a bit more eye candy and even less depth. Take a look at Civilization V....What's new? The hex based mapping system? Gee, I've never seen that before. Excuse me for wanting a game that has incorporated the lessons learned since the early 90's! I've already mentioned the epic fail that is Spore, but I had such high hopes for that game and I was utterly let down. Don't get me wrong...despite the fact that Spore was a sellout in terms of depth...the innovation is sheer genius, however it was wasted.

Also, look at the state we find ourselves in today. We are all here on this forum, but how did you find it? I bet it took a little searching didn't it? You wanted more than what you were being given didn't you? I know I sure as hell did...I went looking for it and here I am relegated to a small pocket of the internet huddling with like minded gamers starving for quality.


@ Erik....

I would support moving the thread to a more appropriate location.
"Tho' much is taken, much abides; and though we are not now that strength which in old days moved Earth and Heaven; that which we are, we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts, made weak by time and fate, but strong in will." -Tennyson
User avatar
the1sean
Posts: 854
Joined: Mon May 10, 2010 11:04 pm
Location: Texas, USA

RE: I appreciate DW much more now.

Post by the1sean »

ORIGINAL: Hertston
ORIGINAL: the1sean

That said, I cant stand devs that release completely unfinished games; I have much more tolerance for devs that work hard to patch and listen to player input.

I'm not quite sure what the difference is? It's only a matter of degree, surely.

It is definitely a matter of degree, but an important distinction. There is a huge difference between a game that comes out a little buggy and needs some patches, and a half-finished game that has serious nearly irrepairable crash issues and crap AI. On top of that, most publishers and devs will not continue to support a product and polish it up with tons of player suggestions.
ORIGINAL: Hertston
And, contrary to Baleur's comment SR is an 'actual game' that is quite playable as-is; it just has a lot of stuff that needs adding to it. As I said, I was somewhat surprised at how much still needed adding to meet my expectations, but it does say something for the game that despite that incompleteness the response to it so far has been far more positive than negative.

I wasnt trying to comment on SR, havent bought it. It sounds more like Sins of a Solar Empire than a true 4x.

ORIGINAL: Hertston
I'd probably still be meddling with it, despite my earlier comment, if they hadn't just released Elemental which I suspect will occupy me for the next few weeks.

Aargh, I have to play Elemental! Star Craft 2 just came out as well. I'll never finish all these games! I still have a stack next to my 360 including Mass Effect 2, Fallout 3, Red Dead Redemption, Borderlands, Assassins Creed 2, and Dragon Age... *sigh*

I blame Distant Worlds, if it wasnt for this game I would have finished all that up by last month.
User avatar
adecoy95
Posts: 420
Joined: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:01 am

RE: I appreciate DW much more now.

Post by adecoy95 »

about the comments about digital distribution, many ISPs today have monthly bandwidth caps on their services, and its something alot of current ISPs are exploring for the future, if it happens, digital distribution will die a swift death overnight
User avatar
J HG T
Posts: 1093
Joined: Fri May 14, 2010 4:06 am
Location: Kiadia Prime

RE: I appreciate DW much more now.

Post by J HG T »

ORIGINAL: the1sean



Aargh, I have to play Elemental! Star Craft 2 just came out as well. I'll never finish all these games! I still have a stack next to my 360 including Mass Effect 2, Fallout 3, Red Dead Redemption, Borderlands, Assassins Creed 2, and Dragon Age... *sigh*

I blame Distant Worlds, if it wasnt for this game I would have finished all that up by last month.

Heh heh! I actually put all my 360 games (ME2, Forza 3, War for Cybertron and some others) and Wii pretty much in to ice to come back for Distant world now that it's patched to state you can fully enjoy it. Even though I love some of my console games (namely ME2) I'll definetly vote distant world for the PC GOTY anywhere possible. It reminds me of the good old days when MOOs 1&2 and Star Control 2 were held as examples of great Space/Sci-fi games. 'sniff' Distant world is just such a great game.
Nothing is impossible, not if you can imagine it!
"And they hurled themselves into the void of space with no fear."
User avatar
Hertston
Posts: 3317
Joined: Sat Aug 17, 2002 3:45 pm
Location: Cornwall, UK

RE: I appreciate DW much more now.

Post by Hertston »

ORIGINAL: Hertston

... if they hadn't just released Elemental which I suspect will occupy me for the next few weeks.

Or not. Something else that needed a few more months in the cooker.

Back to DW [:D]
T_K
Posts: 131
Joined: Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:26 am

RE: I appreciate DW much more now.

Post by T_K »

When I bought SR I knew exactly what I was paying for. I am currently not playing it, just watching how the development goes and it's amazing how in the space of a few days one patch was released and another one is coming soon. It's kinda fascinating to see it grow in realtime...

If you make an uninformed purchase it's entirely your fault if you're not happy with it afterwards.

I also recently bought DW and have put some time into it but I'm not sure yet it was completely worth the $40. Too bad I really don't have that much free time :(

Starcraft II was absolutely NOT worth the $60.
User avatar
the1sean
Posts: 854
Joined: Mon May 10, 2010 11:04 pm
Location: Texas, USA

RE: I appreciate DW much more now.

Post by the1sean »

ORIGINAL: Hertston
ORIGINAL: Hertston

... if they hadn't just released Elemental which I suspect will occupy me for the next few weeks.

Or not. Something else that needed a few more months in the cooker.

Back to DW [:D]

thanks for the warning!
User avatar
Sgt.Fury25
Posts: 141
Joined: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:13 pm

RE: I appreciate DW much more now.

Post by Sgt.Fury25 »

Looks like alot of people appreciate D\W according to all the posts!I enjoy the game very much w\ai handeling most of the boring aspects.Anybody remember SSI Star General?I know lousy ai but I liked the ground combat it had.Anyway back to D\W.Have a good one![:'(]
User avatar
Baleur
Posts: 373
Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2010 9:48 pm

RE: I appreciate DW much more now.

Post by Baleur »

Yeah i also got Elemental, lovely game but still very buggy / crashy. So i basically fired up DW again and it felt good to be back, will start playing Elemental for "real" once more crashes have been fixed :)
Thank you DW for being there during the hard times <3
lolz
User avatar
Hertston
Posts: 3317
Joined: Sat Aug 17, 2002 3:45 pm
Location: Cornwall, UK

RE: I appreciate DW much more now.

Post by Hertston »

ORIGINAL: Baleur

Yeah i also got Elemental, lovely game but still very buggy / crashy. So i basically fired up DW again and it felt good to be back, will start playing Elemental for "real" once more crashes have been fixed :)
Thank you DW for being there during the hard times <3
lolz

It seems to be par for the course these days, sadly.. there really isn't much point in buying anything until a couple of months in (not that I have the self discipline to take that advice). In fairness we should recall DW was obviously in need of considerable work when released, too.

BTW, 8 years and 2771 posts on these boards with not so much as a slapped wrist. As to SR, I've just been banned from theirs (admittedly only for a day) for posting this;
I might have rather more sympathy for this sort of complaint HAD THE GAME BEEN SUPPLIED WITH ANY SORT OF MANUAL, the absence of same is inexcusable whatever the circumstances of the release. As is... pffffftt... sorry..

As I said in another thread, if you think James Allen is unduly harsh, unfair or "obviously exists merely to excite through harshness" (which is total BS BTW), you are in for a few shocks from elsewhere. Guys, I'm all behind supporting this game, but to do so effectively you'll need to discard the fanboy delusions, taking umbrage at criticism and face up to what SR currently is. SR was released effectively as an alpha build and that, however unavoidable it may have been, will have equally unavoidable consequences when it comes to reviews.

Helps you appreciate these forums a whole lot more! [:D]

Roller
Posts: 25
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 3:32 pm

RE: I appreciate DW much more now.

Post by Roller »

Star Ruler is quite interesting though. The scales are mind boggling compared to DW. Currently I am playing in a galaxy with 1500 systems. I experimented a for a couple of hours with the mechanics, teched up, colonized six systems. Then I built a long range colony ship and sent it half a galaxy away. There I manually built up a heavy industry planet. I built a carrier and a thousand miniscule fighters, docked them. Then I built about 500 colony ships just like the first one in three waves, over the course of maybe 20-30 minutes. I selected them all and pressed "X", which is the command to move to the next unexplored starsystem. The ships spread out over the galaxy map in an impressive 3 dimensional torus, and dutifully colonized planets in 500 systems. Insane. 30 minutes or so later, my research output has risen from 200k to 10m.

Of course the interface is atrocious, no real way to keep all this massive fleets and empire under control, haven't met any other civs yet, but anyway.
User avatar
the1sean
Posts: 854
Joined: Mon May 10, 2010 11:04 pm
Location: Texas, USA

RE: I appreciate DW much more now.

Post by the1sean »

ORIGINAL: Ronson

Looks like alot of people appreciate D\W according to all the posts!I enjoy the game very much w\ai handeling most of the boring aspects.Anybody remember SSI Star General?I know lousy ai but I liked the ground combat it had.Anyway back to D\W.Have a good one![:'(]

I never played Star General, unfortunately.
User avatar
Simulation01
Posts: 540
Joined: Wed May 12, 2010 8:10 pm

RE: I appreciate DW much more now.

Post by Simulation01 »

I played Star General.&nbsp; It was.....cool at the time.&nbsp; Good memories there.&nbsp; I initially had a nightmare of a time getting it to run on my old HP, but it was cool when if finally played....I may still have that game.&nbsp; Wow, I just went through my old games.... I still have copies of Star Control 1, 2 & 3, Master of Orion 1 & 2, Civilization 2 and it's scanario pack, SSI Star General, Imperium Galactica II, Call to Power 1 & 2!!!&nbsp; Ahhh, memories&nbsp;[:)]
"Tho' much is taken, much abides; and though we are not now that strength which in old days moved Earth and Heaven; that which we are, we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts, made weak by time and fate, but strong in will." -Tennyson
User avatar
the1sean
Posts: 854
Joined: Mon May 10, 2010 11:04 pm
Location: Texas, USA

RE: I appreciate DW much more now.

Post by the1sean »

You have Alpha Centauri in there? Sounds like a nice collection [:D]
User avatar
Simulation01
Posts: 540
Joined: Wed May 12, 2010 8:10 pm

RE: I appreciate DW much more now.

Post by Simulation01 »

ORIGINAL: the1sean

You have Alpha Centauri in there? Sounds like a nice collection [:D]


Thanks! I never played Alpha Centauri. It didn't really look that good to me.
"Tho' much is taken, much abides; and though we are not now that strength which in old days moved Earth and Heaven; that which we are, we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts, made weak by time and fate, but strong in will." -Tennyson
Post Reply

Return to “Distant Worlds 1 Series”