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Supply is red. Now what?

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My entire offensive has ground down to a halt as most of my units are running on red supply now.

This is my first game, and Im not sure how to resupply them.

Can you guys give me some suggestions? Or did I do something wrong and irrecoverable? If its a mistake I made can you tell me how to avoid making the same mistake?

Thanks in advance.

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Post a screen shot of your map. While in game, hit prt scrn, minimize game, go to MS Paint, hit edit, paste, save......come here, hit post reply, check embed pic, upload pic (usually saved in owner/pictures) and hit submit.

Hard to help unless we see what is going on.

Supply is automatic so we need to see what is happening. You can also save your game, compress you save file and embed that and we can look at your save.
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ok here it is.
Thanks much.



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You still have incomplete information.  I'll guess the red supply units are the ones near the eastern portion of the marshes.

Units need to be certain distance, both in hexes and movement points, to be in supply.  The marshes are really bad for MPs, and the closest working rail lines are just too far for you right now.
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RE: Supply is red. Now what?

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Thanks.

Im having problems fixing the rail lines. My rail fixers are usually 0 MP and I cant move them to fix.

The thing is when I click on HQ it shows those un-supplied guys as blue highlighted (means they are in range of the HQ according to tutorial).

The main units in question are those panzer armies just near gomel.

The guys in the south i dont really care about. I just want to get to moscow!


EDIT: How do I tell how many MP's a unit needs to be in supply? And doesnt the HQ need to be in supply as well? How far away from wherever they are do they need to be?

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1. Open any corps HQ with multiple units in red supply
2. look inside and open Supply Details
3. If Phase one distance to railhead is greater than 24 you are in trouble
4. If Phase one MP to railhead is greater than 99 you are in trouble
5. If both #3 and #4 are in trouble you are in a world of hurt.

Now from looking at the screenshot it's hard to tell where your railheads are, but they do seem to be in the 20's just for hex distance and as randallw pointed out the MP in the swamps is so bad that it is really easy to get too far in MP from the railheads.

Also note that just moving every day will get you in trouble even if you are in supply (#3 and #4 BOTH OK) but just far away.

Hope this helps.
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Section 20.4 of the manual has details about supply.
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ORIGINAL: bloomstombs

Thanks.

Im having problems fixing the rail lines. My rail fixers are usually 0 MP and I cant move them to fix.

The thing is when I click on HQ it shows those un-supplied guys as blue highlighted (means they are in range of the HQ according to tutorial).

The main units in question are those panzer armies just near gomel.

The guys in the south i dont really care about. I just want to get to moscow!


EDIT: How do I tell how many MP's a unit needs to be in supply? And doesnt the HQ need to be in supply as well? How far away from wherever they are do they need to be?


Well, that sounds bad. Note that your "rail fixers" are never at 0MP unless you have moved them. The one's with 0 MP to start with are the automatic fixers who wander about the map fixing branch lines, NOT extending railheads.

The "rail fixers" are the ones marked FBD (or something like that, I don't have the game handy right now). See the manual about how to use them.
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You also do not have garrison's in your captured cities. Hit the "r" key to pull up your rail network. Partisan's may be chopping up your rear area. That will really hurt you. Look for red dots along your rail line.

You have to garrison those cities.
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You can also tell the rail repair you can control by the XXX at the top. AI controlled are II

Zip up a save file and embed it here. Then we can load it up and take a look. Maybe we can figure out quicker.
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Post by bloomstombs2 »

Guys I appreciate it. Im going through a tutorial I found on these forums.

Hex to rail ,17
MP to rail ,31
Hex to hq,2
MP to hq,2

Thats the unit in question.

I just assumed the rail guys were fixing the rails on their own. I didnt realise there were ones I could control and ones that computer controls. Looking at that now..

I mean does supply only come by rail? Sheeez. Goring would disagree.
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Im just taking a look at my rail lines. Pretty much everything near the frontlines is red.I guess my battle plan was a little too successful, I took too much territory too quickly.

Is there no way to take control of these rail workers and tell them specific spots to fix?

This way instead of fixing EVERYTHING I could fix several main arteries.

BTW this game is absolutely friggin amazing.
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Yep, you have 5 rail repair units that YOU control. They are marked with the XXX at the top of counter. IIRC, named FBD. 1 for the north, 2 for central, 1 southern and 1 11th army (I always make this one southern also).

They can repair roughly 5 hexes per turn each. The auto guys will spread out from your main line most times. I also place a Army HQ at major intersection of rails and that seems to help the auto guys spread out.
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RE: Supply is red. Now what?

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Ok that works for me. Thanks alot.
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1. read the manual slowly
2play tutorial
3.read the manual more especially SUPPLY and COMMAND
4. Play shorter games pick one uou like and play it till YOU WIN and understand a bit mor about how the game works

forget about the rest of your activities in life you are now an addicted WitE player

welcome to the club

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One of your FBD units is sitting two hexes west of Brest-Litovsk in that map if you want to know what they look like. Another is two hexes northeast of Vilnius.

Another key button to learn about is the rail status button on the Info Screens tab. It will show you how your rail repair situation looks on the map.

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You can use transport aircraft and level bombers (the bombers only as their first action) to drop supplies as well (air transport button), but it is fairly inefficient and thus should only be used for spearheads or isolated units.

But Göring will not be happy anyway since those transports will be intercepted and shot down unless escorted by fighters which can be a problem sometis due to low fighter range.
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ORIGINAL: CharonJr
But Göring will not be happy anyway since those transports will be intercepted and shot down unless escorted by fighters which can be a problem sometis due to low fighter range.

Drop supplies at night to avoid interception.
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Have I misread the manual then? I was under the impression that transports are not able to drop supplies at night.
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ORIGINAL: CharonJr

Have I misread the manual then? I was under the impression that transports are not able to drop supplies at night.

page 227 of the ebook explains this

Some players night bomb airfields
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