When?

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: tigercub

quizzes quizzes Sir Sir her ugly Sister?

warspite1

Am I alone in not understanding what the hell you just wrote? [;)]

[Centuur]

ORIGINAL: Jimm

No one should EVER read the When? thread. It's just asking for grief.

Why not? It's amusing at times. I'll take a beer and just sit back and see how people are getting frustrated because of the long wait... And than I'll think: well I'm a beta tester and know a lot more that I can't tell here... How nice to be part of the show...

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Jimm

No one should EVER read the When? thread. It's just asking for grief.

warspite1

That's not true Jimm, its fun here - see post 3139, they 'ave great quizzes an' everyfing! [:)]

[paulderynck]

ORIGINAL: CrusssDaddy

Warspite1, are you here? I started a new game of CWiF over the holiday. Can you guess which CW vessel was first to be sunk by the Italians?

The last time I sank the HMS (ship who's name must not be mentioned) the toilet upstairs sprang a leak and water dripped through the light fixture above the game. Now that was annoying !!!

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: paulderynck

ORIGINAL: CrusssDaddy

Warspite1, are you here? I started a new game of CWiF over the holiday. Can you guess which CW vessel was first to be sunk by the Italians?

The last time I sank the HMS (ship who's name must not be mentioned) the toilet upstairs sprang a leak and water dripped through the light fixture above the game. Now that was annoying !!!

warspite1

..and totally deserved. It's called karma [;)]

[Empire101]

ORIGINAL: Patton_71
Think about it. If just 100 or so of us would vow not to purchase any Matrix product at all until WIF's release, we would have this in a month.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.............

Man.. I have'nt laughed so much in ages.....thank goodness I had my jacket buttoned up, or methinks my sides would have split!.

I'll just go outside and get a small group of people together to make a vow about world peace or overpaid footballers or something.... and KABAM!!! It will happen.
Why did'nt we all think of that before......

And for the quizzers.....what character is the laugh ...AHAHAHAHAHAH etc taken from?

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Empire101

ORIGINAL: Patton_71
Think about it. If just 100 or so of us would vow not to purchase any Matrix product at all until WIF's release, we would have this in a month.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.............

Man.. I have'nt laughed so much in ages.....thank goodness I had my jacket buttoned up, or methinks my sides would have split!.

I'll just go outside and get a small group of people together to make a vow about world peace or overpaid footballers or something.... and KABAM!!! It will happen.
Why did'nt we all think of that before......

And for the quizzers.....what character is the laugh ...AHAHAHAHAHAH etc taken from?

warspite1

More quizzes! Great..and I know this one...it's HMS Ramiliies! [:)]

[Empire101]

No...not HMS. Ramilles unfortunately.

Here is a clue....

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Empire101

No...not HMS. Ramilles unfortunately.

Here is a clue....

warspite1

Not Ramillies? Are you sure?

[Empire101]

Well if the question had been say;

'What was the first of the Revenge class of battleship to have anti torpedo bulges fitted',

then yes, you would be right Mr. W.
That sadly though, is not the case is it![;)]

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Empire101

Well if the question had been say;

'What was the first of the Revenge class of battleship to have anti torpedo bulges fitted',

then yes, you would be right Mr. W.
That sadly though, is not the case is it![;)]

warspite1

Oh you are good Mr E, very good...

The first of the Revenge-class eh? Anti-torpedo bulges? Mmm... I'm thinking Royal Sovereign or Resolution, but let me come back to you on that [walks off into the distance deep in thought].

[Jimm]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Jimm

No one should EVER read the When? thread. It's just asking for grief.

warspite1

That's not true Jimm, its fun here - see post 3139, they 'ave great quizzes an' everyfing! [:)]

I should have added, "without a sense of [perspective/humour/destiny/grim inevitability/masochism - delete or insert your own as appropriate]

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Jimm

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Jimm

No one should EVER read the When? thread. It's just asking for grief.

warspite1

That's not true Jimm, its fun here - see post 3139, they 'ave great quizzes an' everyfing! [:)]

I should have added, "without a sense of [perspective/humour/destiny/grim inevitability/masochism - delete or insert your own as appropriate]

warspite1

Indeed. On reflection I am curious as to why I wrote that in cockney geezer styleee?? Strange...

[paulderynck]

Trouble and strife?

[Jimm]

You may be delerious.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Jimm

You may be delerious.

warspite1

Yes..that happens when spending too much time in the When? thread [:(]

[parusski]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Jimm

You may be delerious.

warspite1

Yes..that happens when spending too much time in the When? thread [:(]

When is "too much time"??

[Empire101]

ORIGINAL: Empire101

No...not HMS. Ramilles unfortunately.

Here is a clue....

Ok...it looks like no one is going to get this.....

The answer is 'Mad Gerald' of the never ending AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH laugh.

[Omnius]

ORIGINAL: bo



I really do not want to start a p**s war again but I have to take exception to that crap about the AI holding things up for two and a half years that's plain bull crap, and I am tired of you so called special people here who only care for the game to be released for your little pleasure and the hell with all the other war gamers at Matrix and Battlefront who just might desire an AI good or bad.

After a few years of fighting for a decent AI, I have surrendered to the powers that be and just maybe some of the blame for the delay could be put on the shoulders of the WIF purists that roam around here now and then, because the game has to be exactly as the board game which I am sure has caused Steve enough headaches for this endeavor. I am not saying Steve would have it any other way but I wager he was under a lot of pressure from certain people that the game had to be PURE BOARD GAME WIF!

I could care less about that stuff I just want to see a good computer war game done reasonably well with most of the WIF features in it in a short period of time. And hopefully this game when done will remain on our computers for many years to come.

How many games do we have sitting on the shelves that we will never play again because their playability has long since been used up. I believe this game when finished will never get on that shelf.

Bo

bo,
Only a total jerk would say he doesn't want to start a p**s war then start one. It's not crap that many of us would rather have seen WiF released without a worthless AI - Artificial Ignorance. It would have been nice to have had the game long before this, and who knows how long before we see it released. The only improvement I've seen that I wanted to see is the fixing of the convoy routing so that the AI doesn't overthink it and change your routing selections, as was done in the original ADG computer version.

I have never come here and posted anything about expecting WiF to be exactly like the board game. I've also never called myself a special person here, though yes you are correct that I am special. You're the one acting like some kind of special spoiled brat purist who is expecting something unusual.

I've played the original ADG computer WiF game and loved that it had no AI. I enjoy games with no AI since there isn't a single game ever made that had a decent AI. I call AI Artificial Ignorance with good cause because when it comes to war games AI's are extremely limited in making good choices.

You must be seriously limited in your intelligence if you think any AI is good competition. I guess someone with a limited intelligence would find playing against a lowly AI to be fun. For those of us who enjoy a more competitive game we like playing against other humans or solitaire as all countries.

WiF is far too complex and complicated to ever expect an AI do give us good players a good game. You are a fool if you think a decent AI will ever be made for WiF or any other computer war game, WiF will end up on the shelf not because it has a bad AI but because some new game comes along that we really want to play more than WiF after we've had it a while. It's the inevitable fate of all games.

I am rather anxious about the release of WiF because of Steve's health issues and the patience of Matrix. This game has had the longest gestation period ever and I am worried that Matrix may decide to pull the plug if an imminent release isn't forthcoming because Steve's health takes a turn for the worse. They need to make sound business decisions and they may have to decide to cut their losses if they don't see a payday coming soon on their investment. I commend Steve and Matrix for continuing the WiF project for so long trying to make it the best game possible. I've seen games not get finished in the past, I don't want WiF to be one of them.
Omnius

[addo]

As the topic suggest when? As most of the members of this forum all I would like is ball park date please.
I know it is a complex game system but it has been a looong time coming I have been following it for at least nine years , date or even a year would be nice.
Cheers.