Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1126b updated 17 Sept 2016

[michaelm75au]

Have you set the TF to "No auto disband"? It should not disband by itself if set.
If you still think there is a problem, zip up the save and attach here

[Itdepends]

A question regarding political points- now that we can buy back destroyed LCU's- why is the cost of buying these units back so much lower than buying back a destroyed air group? I can buy back a division for <20pts but an air wing of 30 or 40 planes will cost >100 points?

[Chris21wen]

ORIGINAL: EdM

help

how do you download it
not a computer geek

do they have way for idiots

Look at the very first post of this thread. There you will find a downloadable attachment, click it then download the visible zip. Instructions on what, where etc are in the first post.

[pws1225]

And another patch? I don't think Michael ever sleeps.

[BigDuke66]

Don't you know his favorite track?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZu9ykQJ7aw

@michaelm
Any chance for those:
-Could the messages for minefield be removed? It is really strange to get messages of ships hit and/or sunk by a minefiled were I should have a clue if it does any thing at all
-Could the 1/4 pp cost be shown on the HQ change screen? Still the full price is shown.
-Could plane tender use supplies(just like bases) when planes they support fly missions in an 0 supply base? I find it strange that I could simply outsource those tenders with some airunits and they can fly al day and all night for months without me having to provide any supply at all. The classical setup is patrol planes at a forward base being supplied by those tenders and I'm sure even the small tenders would make some weeks of service possible even when there supply is used.
-Any chance to list the attacking air groups just like the defending air groups in the combat report? Would help to make a clue out of those reports as the way it is now the attacker doesn't know what units at all did participate in the attack, the defender usually has a list of the cap that is going in.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: BigDuke66

Don't you know is favorite track?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZu9ykQJ7aw

@michaelm
Any chance for those:
-Could the messages for minefield be removed? It is really strange to get messages of ships hit and/or sunk by a minefiled were I should have a clue if it does any thing at all Better FOW is always good.
-Could the 1/4 pp cost be shown on the HQ change screen? Still the full price is shown.
-Could plane tender use supplies(just like bases) when planes they support fly missions in an 0 supply base? I find it strange that I could simply outsource those tenders with some airunits and they can fly al day and all night for months without me having to provide any supply at all. The classical setup is patrol planes at a forward base being supplied by those tenders and I'm sure even the small tenders would make some weeks of service possible even when there supply is used. AFAIK seaplane tenders do use supplies when the base has none. IIRC Michael had fixed that some time ago. Do you have save games showing them not using supplies?
-Any chance to list the attacking air groups just like the defending air groups in the combat report? Would help to make a clue out of those reports as the way it is now the attacker doesn't know what units at all did participate in the attack, the defender usually has a list of the cap that is going in. For parsing reports (like with Intel Monkey) it is always helpful when a report says 'Allied' or 'Japanese' too.

[BigDuke66]

Save from a PBEM, end of turn save from t22 I think. Are the passwords needed?
The tender was there from t10 on with some Catalinas flying naval search, thinking that the tender would sooner or later need supplies a brought in 504 supplies some turns later in, by t23 I had to move the tender and AG back and up until then no supply was used by the tender nor from the dot base, at least according to what the numbers from the tracker say.
Oh and at the first turn there a plane was damaged and next turn repaired but even that didn't use any supplies.
Beware that save is I think still of 1223c.

[n01487477]

ORIGINAL: michaelm

03/02/13: 1123d - ...
CV groups should retain resize capability when moved back to ship

Hi Michael -
I just downloaded the beta and the zip shows it as 1123c. I'm taking a stab that it is just a version number thing ..

Like Seille, I moved my airgroups off while upgrading and forgot about the 7/42 resize. Some retained the ability to resize others didn't (it came down to if I'd set "not resize"). I've already moved them back before this beta - Am I now fried or should I move them off and back on again ?

PM sent with password.

edit: the two CV's in question are in Hiroshima/Kure

[Mistmatz]

Could anybody please send me the 1123c update?
My opponent updated but the latest to 1123c but this version is no longer on this thread.

Cheers!

[Cpt Sherwood]

ORIGINAL: Mistmatz

Could anybody please send me the 1123c update?
My opponent updated but the latest to 1123c but this version is no longer on this thread.

Cheers!

It is available in post #2 of this thread.

[Mistmatz]

ORIGINAL: Cpt Sherwood

ORIGINAL: Mistmatz

Could anybody please send me the 1123c update?
My opponent updated but the latest to 1123c but this version is no longer on this thread.

Cheers!

It is available in post #2 of this thread.

Oh, never noticed that. Thx Cpt Sherwood.

[jmalter]

ORIGINAL: Itdepends
A question regarding political points- now that we can buy back destroyed LCU's- why is the cost of buying these units back so much lower than buying back a destroyed air group? I can buy back a division for <20pts but an air wing of 30 or 40 planes will cost >100 points?

well if you buy back an LCU, typically it will show up w/ a VERY low %age of its O/B & v. low morale/Xp. it will require months to rebuild into an effective fighting unit, meanwhile it's a drain on your device pools or veh/arm points production.

conversely, if you buy back an airgroup, you can populate it w/ planes'n'trained pilots from the pools & have the unit back at the front in a week after it arrives.

for me, it makes sense to buy a lot of the Commonwealth/British battalion-sized units that were destroyed in Malaya/Burma, they are cheap, refill reasonably quickly, & can be used to provide garrison troops in rear areas. any kind of base-force or HQ would also be worth buying, as support & engr devices are usually readily available from the pools. i'd be loathe to buy a rgt- or div-sized unit, it might be 12-18 months before the thing is up to snuff.

[Itdepends]

It doesn't take too long to rebuild divisions- particularly if you split them into regiments while rebuilding. It just seems a little off kilter with the relative costs of LCU's vs air units- although point taken- the air units can be rebuilt quickly assuming you have sufficient pilots/planes.

[bradfordkay]

This is a very minor complaint and may have been taken care of already: my PBEM is using the latest official patch and one thing that keeps tripping me up is the "show ships due upgrades" button on a port screen. What it shows are ships that have their "allow upgrade" button set to "yes", not ships that have reached their upgrade date, making it a fairly useless button.

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

This is a very minor complaint and may have been taken care of already: my PBEM is using the latest official patch and one thing that keeps tripping me up is the "show ships due upgrades" button on a port screen. What it shows are ships that have their "allow upgrade" button set to "yes", not ships that have reached their upgrade date, making it a fairly useless button.

No, there are two additional selections that you must be unaware of. After you click the 'show ships due upgrades' button, up at the top are selections for 1) ships that have upgrades allowed versus ships that do not have upgrades allowed, and 2) just to the right of that, one that cycles through 'all upgrades/overdue/this month/next month/>2 months'. That's IIRC, meaning the precise terminology of the selections might vary.

[witpqs]

These two yellow colored text areas are the toggles to click on.

[btd64]

HI ALL. im sure if i had the time to search this thread i would find it but, just downloaded a week ago and today i installed. problem is; I have a 2"margin on both sides when i open the beta and the task bar is blocking part of the bottom. windows 7 laptop. o whoever responds, Thankyou very much.

[bradfordkay]

Thanks, guys.

[n01487477]

ORIGINAL: General Patton

HI ALL. im sure if i had the time to search this thread i would find it but, just downloaded a week ago and today i installed. problem is; I have a 2"margin on both sides when i open the beta and the task bar is blocking part of the bottom. windows 7 laptop. o whoever responds, Thankyou very much.

Look at your switches in the properties of the shortcut. Remove the -w, add others (can be found in the what'snew.pdf

The most recent of many many threads on this topic...
tm.asp?m=3263466

[btd64]

Thankyou Damian, The info on those pages didnt initially work but it did lead to the solution. Here comes the blizard. if your in new england, happy snow. Cheers