Supply base Proposals

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Deathtreader
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Supply base Proposals

Post by Deathtreader »

Hi all,

For some time now I've been proosing that players have the ability to reassign units to non-organic supply bases in order to facilitate mixed units from different formations etc. as well as a single group of surrounded units from various formations with 1 supply base in the pocket at least allowing all the units to draw on that base for items that the base is capable of providing each of it's fellow surrounded unit requirements. As an example. obviously an Infantry supply base is not going to provide tank main ammo but it might provide some small arms ammo, fuel, and food/water. This would have the added benefit of stopping suicidal supply runs by the pocketed units organic supply bases trying to get supplies thru the enemy cordon. You all get the idea I'm sure........[:)]

I don't know if this will ever see the light of day but perhaps we could at least have a formation's units being able to draw supplies from that formations superior level base when their own base is destroyed. By that I mean when a regt/brigade level supply base is destroyed then all those units begin to draw from the next higher up base ie. the corresponding division's supply base. As it stands now the baseless formation becomes an orphan starved of all supply for the rest of the scenario. Not good.

I would also like to propose that when a base is destroyed or surrendeed the capturing/destroying units should obtain a portion of that enemy bases's basics and fuel stocks. If not directly then at least reflected in higher levels of those items for the capturing/destroying unit's base.

What do you folks think??
Comments welcome...........

Rob.[:)]
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RE: Supply base Proposals

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Re-assign units to bases of choice. Yes, please.

But you write : I don't know if this will ever see the light of day but perhaps we could at least have a formation's units being able to draw supplies from that formations superior level base when their own base is destroyed. By that I mean when a regt/brigade level supply base is destroyed then all those units begin to draw from the next higher up base ie. the corresponding division's supply base. As it stands now the baseless formation becomes an orphan starved of all supply for the rest of the scenario. Not good.

That already happens, no? When a base is destroyed then the AI switches and takes supply from the base next up in the organic structure. This happens, I believe, at the next re-supply event for all the units concerned, or at an emergency resupply request, unit by unit requesting. The problem is having to wait until the base is destroyed. The base can be useless long before it's destroyed (no trucks/jeeps, or no men to load them with) and yet the AI doesn't switch until it's destroyed or surrendered or exited. That needs fixing, I think we can all agree.
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RE: Supply base Proposals

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Great suggestions Deathreader.
I think we need to be careful about the switching of supply to another base though, here's why:

The new units could, and probably will overload the new supply base, thereby making the organic units of that base receive less or even no supply.

So although you will have brought the units with the inoperable base back into some measure of supply, what you could end up with is two complete formations, with very bad supply.
Instead of just one formation, combat ineffective, and the other in good shape, you now have two, in pretty bad shape.

So what we would need is to still have the ability to decide, which units get priority for that supply, once it starts to get low.

For instance you can have one formation resting, and receiving basics only, while the other is in combat on full ammo supply, then swap them out for the other rested one.
Its very unlikely that the base will be able to supply 2 combat effective formations at the same time.

Edit: Of course its not just the amount of supply in the base that determines the level of the supply that the two formations can have, but the ability of the base to supply them, due to transport, and man handling capacity.

It should be possible in this circumstance to assign units (maybe some with transport assets like gun prime movers, or motorised infantry units) from the formation with the destroyed base, to assist in the transportation and delivery of the supply.
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