Date for AI

[ulysisgrunt]

Is there any projected date for the AI being available?
Danny Weitz

[AbwehrX]

Dont worry about it. Its a waste of time to even bother with in WiF.

[Neilster]

ORIGINAL: AbwehrX

Dont worry about it. Its a waste of time to even bother with in WiF.

A lot of people said the game would be impossible to convert, even without an AI. They were wrong. Now a lot of people say an AI is impossible or it will be absolutely pathetic. We shall see.

Have you read the AI threads and seen how much work has already gone into it?

Cheers, Neilster

[AbwehrX]

Not yet but an AI defeats the purpose.

[aspqrz02]

And what purpose is that?

If you mean 'as an aide memoire for players of the boardgame' then ... maybe ...

On the other hand, there is significant evidence that the game has attracted the attention/interest of many people who neither own the original boardgame nor are interested in boardgames in general and who see it as a *computer* game.

I suppose if Matrix had absolutely no interest in selling it to the second market share indicated, and it seems that that may be true, then you are probably right ... but even their marketing people can't be that stupid ... or can they?

Phil

[AbwehrX]

Youre correct that they would love the extra bucks that an AI might attract but as a WiF fanatic, Im only interested in the "spiritual" value of the game as a grudge-match mechanism. All else is illusion. Crew expendable. [:D]

[aaatoysandmore]

ORIGINAL: aspqrz

And what purpose is that?

If you mean 'as an aide memoire for players of the boardgame' then ... maybe ...

On the other hand, there is significant evidence that the game has attracted the attention/interest of many people who neither own the original boardgame nor are interested in boardgames in general and who see it as a *computer* game.

I suppose if Matrix had absolutely no interest in selling it to the second market share indicated, and it seems that that may be true, then you are probably right ... but even their marketing people can't be that stupid ... or can they?

Phil

You're right as I would never buy the game for $99 without an AI.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: aaatoysandmore

ORIGINAL: aspqrz

And what purpose is that?

If you mean 'as an aide memoire for players of the boardgame' then ... maybe ...

On the other hand, there is significant evidence that the game has attracted the attention/interest of many people who neither own the original boardgame nor are interested in boardgames in general and who see it as a *computer* game.

I suppose if Matrix had absolutely no interest in selling it to the second market share indicated, and it seems that that may be true, then you are probably right ... but even their marketing people can't be that stupid ... or can they?

Phil

You're right as I would never buy the game for $99 without an AI.

warspite1

Wow - that's thread no.4 and counting.....

[Greyshaft]

ORIGINAL: AbwehrX

Youre correct that they would love the extra bucks that an AI might attract but as a WiF fanatic, Im only interested in the "spiritual" value of the game as a grudge-match mechanism. All else is illusion. Crew expendable. [:D]

Yet there are people like myself who see the AI as essential. I've been following this project since Matrix took it over and have contributed my bits and pieces where I could (eg wrote all of the biographies for the HQ units plus wrote the first draft for all of the air units). I doubt I'd ever get into a regular HTH match mode since my joy is exploring alternatives which would quickly drive a real opponent screaming from the game... such as lets presume there was a gap in the French line in 1940 <<<LEAVES VACANT HEXNORTH OF MAGINOT LINE>>>... will the Germans spot it and exploit it??? Can I seal off that breakthrough? Dang, I failed... OK, lets try that move again <<<RESTARTS SCENARIO>>>.

So my preference is for competing against an uncomplaining AI who will grant me unlimited mulligans while I play in the MWiF sandbox. Why is my choice less valid than yours? There's room for everyone here. If you don't want the AI then just don't buy it. For my part I will gladly spend my gaming time to help beta test the AI.

[Aurelian]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: aaatoysandmore

ORIGINAL: aspqrz

And what purpose is that?

If you mean 'as an aide memoire for players of the boardgame' then ... maybe ...

On the other hand, there is significant evidence that the game has attracted the attention/interest of many people who neither own the original boardgame nor are interested in boardgames in general and who see it as a *computer* game.

I suppose if Matrix had absolutely no interest in selling it to the second market share indicated, and it seems that that may be true, then you are probably right ... but even their marketing people can't be that stupid ... or can they?

Phil

You're right as I would never buy the game for $99 without an AI.

warspite1

Wow - that's thread no.4 and counting.....

[:D]

[pzgndr]

ORIGINAL: Greyshaft

Yet there are people like myself who see the AI as essential.

So my preference is for competing against an uncomplaining AI

Why is my choice less valid than yours? There's room for everyone here. If you don't want the AI then just don't buy it.

Fortunately, Matrix and ADG and Steve are all onboard with providing a challenging computer opponent, as well as the other scenarios and other enhancements such as pbem, etc. So, it's pretty much a complete waste of time arguing with those folks who want to pick a stupid senseless fight that has a maximum effective range of zero. It amuses me greatly that there are those who probably stay up awake at night worried sick that somebody else is actually playing a computer wargame against a computer opponent, as God intended it to be, and actually enjoying themselves. Oh.My.God!!!! [X(]

[Peeking Duck?]

ORIGINAL: warspite1


Wow - that's thread no.4 and counting.....

And how many aliases? That's the really sad part [>:]

[ulysisgrunt]

Back to my key question;
Is there a projected date for the AI?

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: ulysisgrunt

Back to my key question;
Is there a projected date for the AI?

warspite1

No hard and fast date no. Steve has the following projects on the go - fixing any bugs found, getting net play to work (eventually for up to 6 players), and the AI.

Edit: Sorry, Steve is also coding the optionals and scenarios not yet included.

[Rocko911]

Yep a no AI is a deal killer for me especially at what it costs.

[AbwehrX]

Bah! You goofy fools. WiF is the best game in all of human history & youre whining about an AI?!.....Off with your heads!! [:'(]

[Mynok]

It happens all the time. Anytime a new game comes out, the AI whackos come out in force. And by that I mean the ones whose sole purpose in life seems to be to bitch and complain about it or the lack of it as often and in as many places as possible.

[Maesphil74]

ORIGINAL: Mynok


It happens all the time. Anytime a new game comes out, the AI whackos come out in force. And by that I mean the ones whose sole purpose in life seems to be to bitch and complain about it or the lack of it as often and in as many places as possible.

What new game was published here lately without AI
[&:]

[Mynok]

Lately none. But fear not, they shall complain about the one they get. [:D]

[Maesphil74]

ORIGINAL: Mynok


Lately none. But fear not, they shall complain about the one they get. [:D]

Mkay, what about not so lately then?
What games were ever published here without AI?