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Gary Grigsby’s War in the East: The German-Soviet War 1941-1945 is a turn-based World War II strategy game stretching across the entire Eastern Front. Gamers can engage in an epic campaign, including division-sized battles with realistic and historical terrain, weather, orders of battle, logistics and combat results.

The critically and fan-acclaimed Eastern Front mega-game Gary Grigsby’s War in the East just got bigger and better with Gary Grigsby’s War in the East: Don to the Danube! This expansion to the award-winning War in the East comes with a wide array of later war scenarios ranging from short but intense 6 turn bouts like the Battle for Kharkov (1942) to immense 37-turn engagements taking place across multiple nations like Drama on the Danube (Summer 1944 – Spring 1945).

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@morvael

And you said we get 1.08.04 in 2 months right?

you promised ;-)
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I have to agree that the 28 number used for the point at which units are penalized seems like a harsh penalty for the Soviet corps. I've been building rifle corps like crazy in my game against Pelton and now I find out (I should have read up on the new rules) that once I commit more than one I'm penalized. I'd agree that number needs to be raised to 30.

With that said in my latest Soviet turn I attacked with as many rifle corps as possible figuring that I could accept whatever penalty I received as long as "some" of my additional units participated in the attack - am I right in this approach? I seemed to have decent results.

Also - what role does this play for reserves? Are they counted as well?
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Another issue unless I missed it in all the changes....

Arent you supposed to get an admin point back when you switch a unit to static mode?

As Im getting charged an admin point to switch units to static mode.
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Actually this was a change in 1.08 I really liked. Before you paid a steep price to put large units in static mode because you got APs up front when you put them in static mode but the cost to reactivate was really steep. Better to pay just a couple AP to do both.
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ORIGINAL: smokindave34

I have to agree that the 28 number used for the point at which units are penalized seems like a harsh penalty for the Soviet corps. I've been building rifle corps like crazy in my game against Pelton and now I find out (I should have read up on the new rules) that once I commit more than one I'm penalized. I'd agree that number needs to be raised to 30.

With that said in my latest Soviet turn I attacked with as many rifle corps as possible figuring that I could accept whatever penalty I received as long as "some" of my additional units participated in the attack - am I right in this approach? I seemed to have decent results.

Also - what role does this play for reserves? Are they counted as well?


---------Win---------Held---------Ratio

SHC-----37------------43----------46%
Total:---37------------43----------46%
Tempo: 27 attacks per turn.

That's the results from last 3 clear turns. Some were vs minor allies.

Oka north 0-11, where my best infantry, leaders ect ect are and good terrian.

The best results were in the far east where your higher morale units are and my worst,
several are over the same hex you drive me out and can't move in I retake you drive me out again ect.

Going back and looking at my past games for this time period, its a little low as most were between 55-65%,
but those games were rattled with ammo and swapping bugs which caused the collapse of the German Army.

So 40-50% for 43 will probably be normal with the % going up over time as the German Army weakens and Russian Army gets stronger.

Its early 43 not 44 so its going to be a while before the ball starts rolling, which in past games has been Dec 43 to Jan 44 when
the river freeze or 26 to 32 turns from our present turn.

Its hard to tell, but I have all my old data so that be my best guess.

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Well I don't think I have any real chance of making it to Berlin on time but I'd like to play through until at least summer '44 for at least two reasons:

1) Gain some late war experience as Soviets
2) Flesh out any potential issues with 1.08+ since I don't think there have been any late war AAR's with the most recent patches

And I'll also get some satisfaction in surviving past '42 unlike a lot of your other opponents [;)]
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Well you still get to beat me up for a little while longer. [;)]
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Have wondered for some time, when looking at the scenario set ups for later war, what all the seemingly extraneous sov units were for. Aha!!, there is some mysterious magic combination, one sov biggie, brigade x, then brigade y, and on, and lo! the perfect formula.

May as well mess around with the "Gordian knot". All this nerfing and reweaving the web, not really working so hot. No wonder 2x3 quit on us.
Still following everything, testing combat results using "in turn" saves, and remaining hopeful.

If bigger ain't gonna be better, the entire sov philosophy, then bigger should have never been in the game in the first place.

And ahem, not to offend, if you please, thx
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Seriously, pay attention to your C+C as early as June 41 and you can hammer the Axis flat. Against a few Ubernauts like Pelton this is daunting, but no reason to not play. Using Admin to correctly organize an attack is the whole point, and goes a long way to balance the generous logistics.
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Well bombing the port flat in leningrad and letting them starve all winter apparently does the trick on taking the lvl 5 fort hex lol.
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okay so is this supposed to happen?

Playing vs the computer, random weather on....

Got snow on May 28, 1942 turn....I know it was a harsh winter and all but snow in the Moscow/Tula area in late May? pretty freaky weather there.....
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ORIGINAL: smokindave34

Well I don't think I have any real chance of making it to Berlin on time but I'd like to play through until at least summer '44 for at least two reasons:

1) Gain some late war experience as Soviets
2) Flesh out any potential issues with 1.08+ since I don't think there have been any late war AAR's with the most recent patches

And I'll also get some satisfaction in surviving past '42 unlike a lot of your other opponents [;)]

I very much need the exp, because for as many games I have played into 43+ none were with a working game engine.

So this game will be my new standard to measure other games by that make it into 43+

Great game, I very much injoy our games.
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ORIGINAL: chaos45

okay so is this supposed to happen?

Playing vs the computer, random weather on....

Got snow on May 28, 1942 turn....I know it was a harsh winter and all but snow in the Moscow/Tula area in late May? pretty freaky weather there.....

Looking at the weather records for Moscow in May between 1996 and 2014, it very rarely snows in May. The latest it snowed in that period was 20th May 2002, and this was a mixture of rain and snow - so more likely the snow melted as soon as it hit the ground.

The last time it snowed in Moscow in May was 2003, so it is a very rare event.

Rain however is very common, overall 40% of the May days in that period experienced some rain, so mud turns in May should be expected.

Of course, weather patterns may have changed over the past 60 years and maybe it was more common to have snow in May in the 1940's?

I would say you are very unlucky!

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Ya mud I can understand but I got snow. Think they might want to go in and change the coding to no snow possible at the end of May...I could maybe understand a freak snow incident in early May, but late may its seems pretty much fantasy/far fetched.
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About the comment that it did not now much in Moscow between 1996 and 2014. Weather may not be what it was back in 1940's. Global weather has changed, also there are fluctuations from one decade to the other. It would be better to have forecast from WW2. If i remember the winter of 1941-42 in russia was of the worst kind, under the normal.

Strange because another invasion, la Grande Armee de Napoleon, suffered a bitter winter there.

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WitE 2 will have a completely overhauled weather model. I suspect we'll have to wait until then.
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