[RELEASED] Black Tiger

[JK07]

BT5- Wow probably the most extensive IADS I have ever been up against in a scenario. Trying to tackle it bit by bit though.
The MIG-35s of the RVG are insane. One MIG-35 literally dodged 10+ missiles and took out 3 F-18s in one sortie. Frustrating.

[jmarso]

Yeah, there is one 'command' element of the RVG that is Ace proficiency and flying the very best stuff. They are supposed to give those Tomcat 21's and F-35's a run for their money.

[wild_Willie2]

Yes, that is why you only engage the MIG-35's with your Tomcats from extreme range, I just finished this scenario again and only lost a total of two AC. I got unlucky and two of my Tomcats took long range missiles during their first engagement with 8 MIG-35's. Your Tomcats will do about 95% of the killing during this scenario, I only use the F35's to take out the two Mainstays at the eastern AF and then load them with JASSM-B variants to kill SAM's (under escort of 2 growlers) with their cluster warhead.

W.

[jmarso]

Glad you guys are enjoying the scenarios. Gunner98 must be one helluva player- every scenario I put up he just seems to chew up and spit out- dude should have been a real-life admiral. His scenario builds are f***-all cool as well. I don't claim any particular strategic-mindedness but I am a former U.S. Navy officer (1990's P-3 bubba) and they leave me scratchin' my head and scrambling. (I punched out as an O-3 after about 9 years of service, and only one tour in VP)

If they aren't using this game (or something like it) at the Naval War College, they really need to be. Some of the stuff players come up with here (and I don't mean my fictional BS) is totally worthy of professional study. All they would need to do is load a classified version of the DB and run with it.

[Gunner98]

dude should have been a real-life admiral.

[:D]Army, and only a Lt-Colonel, but 32 years and some time in the reserves, and good jobs, you pick stuff up. [;)]

Thanks for the kind words

B

[xavierv]

This is not compatible with the latest build ? (678.17)

I get an error when I try to load it (your latest edit)

[jmarso]

ORIGINAL: navyrecognition

This is not compatible with the latest build ? (678.17)

I get an error when I try to load it (your latest edit)

Which scenario? There are five of them in the pack. Or do none of them load? (I haven't upgraded my build yet- I'm still on an older one.)

EDIT: I updated by build to 678.17 and the entire scenario pack opened and ran for me without any issues. One thing you might want to look at: Black Tiger uses Build 429 of DB3000. If you've deleted older DB files and are missing that one, that might be the cause of the issue. Other than that I'm not sure why it wouldn't be working for you. If it's not the DB version, you might want to hit up the devs in the tech support forum- I'm not a programmer and not familiar at all with the 'guts' of the game engine.

[mikeCK]

I would request that a few squadrons of F-18s start the scenario armed with JSOW or Slam-er. There seem to be truckloads armed with HARMS or AGM-84 AARGM. Fine for radar but I would think that the JSOWS would be the weapon of choice to take out all those launchers and such. I rearmed about a dozen super hornets but it takes 6 hours. Just not sure that if i was in command of the mission, going in, i would arm 20-30 some-odd f-18s with anti-radiation missiles.

I am not to knowledgeable on current naval tactics and such so this is just kind of an idea/request and not a claim about accuracy

[jmarso]

If you want to change the starting conditions, play in editor mode and rearm what you want with the hot keys that let you do it immediately.

You can also save a version of the scenario to play this way every time if you makes the changes you want and save before you start the scenario running time-wise. It's all fairly easy to do.

[mikeCK]

Great, thank you. Really enjoying it (and losing it)

[kgambit]

Just finished parts 1, 2, 3 and 5 (part 4 is still in progress). Great set of scenarios. Finished part 5 in less than 2.5 days with a Triumph - over 1400 points with minimal US casualties and zero Iranian units left on the map. Got both Iranian subs too. I debated long and hard about whether to follow the last order in the manner dictated or take out those targets using other means. In the end, I let the missiles fly.

Ran into two issues in BT5:

1) Repeating event trigger for the Black Tiger Intercept mission - kept repeating this every minute: Event: "Black Tiger Intercept goes active" has been fired.

The repeating message didn't begin until the four southern most airfields were destroyed. Saving and reloading didn't clear the problem. Before that the message would only fire once when I first reloaded from a save game, Turning off the event messages at least cleared the message log. This is the same problem Gunner saw but with a different event.

2) "Aircraft parking facilities at NAS Bandar Abbas / Havardarya Airport are overfilled. Please contact the scenario designer .... "

The message occurred for all 4 of the southern airfields. They stopped triggering when the Airfields were destroyed .... lol. Fwiw, I see this message occurring regularly in numerous scenarios if I start destroying aircraft parking facilities. It never causes the scenario to crash or become unplayable however.