Moderator: MOD_WarintheWest
ORIGINAL: LiquidSky
In my last play as the Allies I used my Strategic Bombers exclusively on hitting industries.
I estimate that I destroyed and kept destroyed over half his air and afv factories. Most of his vehicle factories. Half of his heavy industry.
And most of his Fuel:
ORIGINAL: LiquidSky
In my last play as the Allies I used my Strategic Bombers exclusively on hitting industries.
I estimate that I destroyed and kept destroyed over half his air and afv factories. Most of his vehicle factories. Half of his heavy industry.
And most of his Fuel:
ORIGINAL: Helpless
Iirc, Carl (carlkay58) did fuel bombing which caused real shortage on the ground.
ORIGINAL: Harrybanana
KWG, are you willing to provide any specifics of how you are doing this? As I said in my game against QBall I started adopting a similar strategy. I would generally use the 1600 or so bombers I have in BC to fly four 400 bombers each Ground Attack ("Unit") Air directives against 4 enemy hexes. They would generally fly 3 days per week at about 17,000 feet. For my load out I used whatever gave me the most bombs rather than just a few big bombs. But I don't know as I got as good a results as you are getting here. Though on one turn I did advance 2 to 3 hexes against tough opposition on a 3 hex wide front. I found using 400 FBs or 2 engine level bombers at 12000 feet was not nearly as effective. It is now January 1945 and I am considering using even 8th AF in a ground attack roll once the skies clear. The way I see it the Strategic bombing divisor is so high in 45 that it will probably only cost me 1 or 2 VPs per turn. But I really haven't decide if I "feel right" about this yet. It is not an exploit, but somehow it still feels a little wrong to me. probably not enough to keep me up at night with a bad conscience though.
ORIGINAL: Pelton
Personal attacks do not change exploits.
Its funny how I point out exploits and 2by3 1st reaction is a personal attack
So KWG who told you about the work around to interdiction?
When I play I expect to play 1 person not 2by3 ect ect
Who informed you about this exploit?
Again lets stick to the data and not more Bozo the clown/2by3 personal attacks.
A Middle Earth explot is a Middle Earth exploit aka your silly pants Fellowship stuff
to you, as you are going to drop the bomb on me.ORIGINAL: Red Lancer
Why, when a tactic is employed that is different to history or that provides a significant advantage against you do you call it an exploit? Why don't you criticise your ahistoric holding of reserves on trains as an exploit and ask for that to be corrected?
ORIGINAL: Seminole
My advice is to try and tune out the histrionics some favor and focus on the facts.
Of particular interest to me are the differences between the raids that generate <10 losses and those that generate >500.
Are these similar aircraft, just wide variance in 'rolls' and thus results, or is it that certain airframes/loadouts rock and others are next to useless at unit bombing (assuming that's what is creating most of these losses)?
I'd hate to see aircraft in general nerfed when it's something particular to a certain airframe/loadout that might be getting unintended or outsized results.
I've noticed, and mentioned in more than one AAR, that the naval and ground interdiction engines love sheer number of bombs over seemingly any other player controlled consideration (e.g. 28 little bombs in a Ju-88 trump even torpedoe loadouts when it comes to naval interdiction).
I don't see anything in the manual about different terrain (and manmade forts) effects on air attacks. Can anyone chip in?
ORIGINAL: Red Lancer
This is not an exploit. Strategic Bombers were used on more than one occasion against ground troops so there is no reason why they couldn't
be used over a more protracted period. KWG is losing V-Wpn VPs.
ORIGINAL: Pelton
Also what is wrong with air system so that it needs a summer bonus?
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Just because someone questions something people don't need to come unglued.
ORIGINAL: Pelton
ORIGINAL: Red Lancer
This is not an exploit. Strategic Bombers were used on more than one occasion against ground troops so there is no reason why they couldn't
be used over a more protracted period. KWG is losing V-Wpn VPs.
That's true, but very few.
He is also causing unhistorical loses every turn from planes, which is clear.
He could simply not even invade and cause 20-30k loses.
That's the point I am tring to make here that gets over looked.
Also why does the air system need a summer bonus?
He could simply not even invade and cause 20-30k loses.
