New 'Long Scenario' for testing NF 12.6 The Longest Battle

[Gunner98]

Thanks for the points - looks like you had some fun with the Venezuelans [:D]

I'll have to take another look at this one over the weekend. Just finishing up another LIVE scenario and need to crank out a few more of the later NF scenarios soon - but you and Andrew have got me re-interested in this beasty

Thanks

B

[Excroat3]

And here's Argentina:

After the conflict in Venezuela, NATO announced that they would not allow ships or aircraft of any country to come within 25 miles of any NATO ship or aircraft. Argentina sent out a Learjet to challenge the new rule, and the aircraft was promptly shot down 13 miles from the HMS Jupiter. After filing a complaint that they were just on a routine flight, Argentina tried again with another Learjet, and this one was shot down exactly at the 25nm limit, by a Harrier, or so the pilot reported before going off air. Ignoring this intelligence, Argentina decided to go ahead with its plans to attack the radar, airport, and port sites on the Falkland Islands.


A boy and his father on Mount Alice looked up, and were treated to a spectacular sight of Tornadoes and Mirages sparring not 200 feet above them, not unlike what their London brethren had seen during WW2. A flight of 2 A-4s, seemingly headed right for them, were pounced upon by 2 Harriers, but these didn't look like the ones that had cleared the skies over the Island 12 years prior. The father caught a glimpse of a roundel on a Harrier, and although he did not know that it was one belonging to the Spanish Navy, he was glad that someone other than the Brits had come to help them over the skies of their home.

The fighting was close and brutal, as sidewinders flew off rails and impacted with targets at the absolute minimum range. It seemed that the Tornadoes and Harriers were about to be overwhelmed, but then 8 more Tornadoes, diverted from a strike on an Argentinian ship, dived into the melee, missiles flying and guns blazing. Their added firepower helped finally destroy the last of the strikers threatening the radar on the mountain. The ground around Mount Alice was littered with the wrecks of dozens of Argentinian fighters and bombers, as well as 2 British Tornadoes.

After the furball, only 2 Tornado Gr.1s had the fuel to complete their strike on the ship, and they somberly headed in that direction, their minds clouded with the recent life and death battle they had just experienced. The first Tornado screamed over the bridge at low altitude, unable to get a lock for his bombs. The second Tornado pilot yelled in anger as he saw his wingman clawed from the sky by an Apside SAM, before dropping his 2 bombs and pulling a high-g turn and punching his throttle to get the hell out of there. As the remaining Tornadoes landed at Mount Pleasant Airport, pilots talked to one another in hushed voices. Before this, they were jealous that their comrades were off fighting in Europe or North Norway, and they were stuck defending a "useless rock". Now, having experienced the horrors of war and having lost 3 of their own, they were very humbled. After a long silence, the pilots came together and began to plan out how they would take the fight back to their enemy.


SIDE: NATO
===========================================================

LOSSES:
-------------------------------
2x Tornado F.3
1x Tornado GR.1


EXPENDITURES:
------------------
2x 27mm Mauser BK-27 Burst [30 rnds]
5x 27mm Mauser BK-27 x 2 Burst [60 rnds]
59x AIM-9M Sidewinder
18x AIM-9L Sidewinder
21x AIM-9P-4 Sidewinder
2x GBU-24B/B Paveway III LGB [BLU-109A/B]
48x Sky Flash Super TEMP Mod.



SIDE: Argentena
===========================================================

LOSSES:
-------------------------------
20x A-4AR Fightinghawk
1x D 10 Almirante Brown [Meko 360H2]
8x Dagger A [Nesher S, Mod Mirage 5]
10x Kfir C.2
2x Learjet 35A
14x Mirage F.1CE [C.14]
8x Mirage IIIEA


EXPENDITURES:
------------------
10x 127mm/54 OTO Melara Compact HECVT
7x 40mm/70 Twin Breda Compact Burst [32 rnds]
2x Aspide
13x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
19x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
9x R.550 Magic 1
2x Shafrir 2

[Excroat3]

In the end, it didn't matter how they were discovered, but the result was the same. The swarm of bombers that came to attack TG Jupiter were all shot down by the defending Tornadoes far before any real damage was done. The RAF also detected a 2nd destroyer, and after a surprisingly large amount of paveways, the enemy ship finally sunk below the waves. Other than Argentina's sub fleet and 2 ships, suspected to now be gunning for NATO convoys as revenge for Spain's participation in the battle, Argentina was finished. The task groups involved went back to convoy escort or any other duty they were doing before the crisis. In the meantime, back up north, the USS Kennedy CVBG had just completed a run across the Atlantic and was now ordered south, to deal with rumors of Soviet forces operating out of Nigeria.

Total losses and expenditures for both Venezuela and Argentina:
SIDE: NATO
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LOSSES:
-------------------------------
2x F-16A Falcon ADF
3x SH-2F Seasprite
1x FF 1052 Knox
1x FFG 7 Oliver Hazard Perry
1x DDG 19 Tattnall [Charles F. Adams]
1x F/A-18C Hornet
1x AV-8B Harrier II [EAV-8B Day-Only, VA.1B Matador II]
2x Tornado F.3
1x Tornado GR.1


EXPENDITURES:
------------------
89x AIM-9M Sidewinder
12x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
36x AIM-7M Sparrow III
12x 20mm/85 M61A1 Vulcan Burst [100 rnds]
24x Mk82 500lb LDGP
64x RIM-66J SM-2MR Blk II
50x AIM-54C Phoenix
6x 127mm/54 HE-CVT [HiFrag]
4x 20mm/85 Mk15 Phalanx Blk 0 Burst [200 rnds]
13x Mk214 Sea Gnat Chaff [Seduction]
20x AIM-7P Sparrow III
16x RGM-109C Tomahawk Blk II TLAM-C
43x RIM-66E SM-1MR Blk VI
43x RIM-67C SM-2ER Blk II
24x AGM-84D Harpoon IC
2x RGM-84C Harpoon IB
8x Mk182 SRBOC Chaff [Seduction]
1x RGM-84D Harpoon IC
31x AIM-9P-4 Sidewinder
4x FIM-92B Stinger POST
84x HYDRA 70mm Rocket
12x ADM-141A TALD [Active RF]
8x AGM-84E SLAM
3x AGM-65F Maverick IR
24x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
21x Mk83 1000lb LDGP
4x Mk20 Rockeye II CB [247 x Mk118 Dual Purpose Bomblets]
18x 25mm GAU-12/U Burst [60 rnds]
1x 20mm Mk12 x 2 [50 rnds]
18x AIM-9L Sidewinder
100x Sky Flash Super TEMP Mod.
4x 27mm Mauser BK-27 Burst [30 rnds]
5x 27mm Mauser BK-27 x 2 Burst [60 rnds]
22x GBU-24B/B Paveway III LGB [BLU-109A/B]
6x Generic Chaff Salvo [8x Cartridges]
6x CPU-123 Paveway II LGB



SIDE: Argentena
===========================================================

LOSSES:
-------------------------------
4x Learjet 35A
18x Kfir C.2
36x A-4AR Fightinghawk
16x Mirage F.1CE [C.14]
16x Dagger A [Nesher S, Mod Mirage 5]
16x Mirage IIIEA
2x D 10 Almirante Brown [Meko 360H2]
1x Structure (Pier [Very Large, 45.1-200m])
1x Structure (Pier [Large, 25.1-45m])


EXPENDITURES:
------------------
2x Shafrir 2
37x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
27x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
9x R.550 Magic 1
18x 127mm/54 OTO Melara Compact HECVT
42x 40mm/70 Twin Breda Compact Burst [32 rnds]
17x Aspide
1x Generic Flare Salvo [4x Cartridges, Single Spectral]



SIDE: Venezuela
===========================================================

LOSSES:
-------------------------------
12x F-16A Falcon
3x PC 11 Constitucion
12x F-5A Freedom Fighter [CF-5A]
1x Falcon 20DC SIGINT
12x AT-27 Tucano [EMB-312]
1x Structure (Pier [Very Large, 45.1-200m])
4x Mirage 5V
3x PC 12 Federacion
18x Mirage 50EV
12x Mirage IIIEV
6x AB.212 ASW
6x F 21 Mariscal Sucre [Lupo]
1x An-12BK-PP Cub C
1x Boeing 707-320C(KC) Tanker
2x MiG-25RBT Foxbat B
1x Structure (Pier [Large, 25.1-45m])
6x MiG-25P Foxbat A
2x A/C Hangar (2x Medium Aircraft)


EXPENDITURES:
------------------
5x 20mm/85 M61A1 Vulcan Burst [100 rnds]
4x AIM-9L Sidewinder
7x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
6x 76mm/62 Compact HE Burst [4 rnds]
46x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
30x Otomat Mk2 Mod I
62x Aspide
48x 127mm/54 OTO Melara Compact HECVT
82x 40mm/70 Twin Breda Compact Burst [32 rnds]
33x SCLAR Chaff
2x Mk83 1000lb LDGP
4x Mk82 500lb LDGP
4x AA-6 Acrid A [R-40R, SARH]



SIDE: WP
===========================================================

LOSSES:
-------------------------------
1x Bunker (Comm Center)
1x Diesel Bunker (150k Liter Tank)
4x SA-8b Gecko Mod-0 [9A33BM2] TELAR
2x SA-6b Gainful [2P25] TEL
2x Vehicle (Fire Dome [9S35])
6x SA-6a Gainful [2P25] TEL
2x Vehicle (Straight Flush [1S91])
1x Diesel (400k Liter Tank)
1x Structure (Pier [Large, 25.1-45m])
1x Structure (Pier [Very Large, 45.1-200m])
3x Tu-16K-26PM Badger G Mod


EXPENDITURES:
------------------
12x SA-8b Gecko Mod-0 [9M33M2]
18x SA-6a Gainful [9M336]
3x SA-6b Gainful [9M336]

[AndrewJ]

The game continues. It's now Feb 25, and convoys continue to form up and head out into the ocean. The badly wounded T-AKR is nearly back to Portsmouth for repair, and the others are continuing west with convoy 94/01. My main convoys haven't had any direct sub contacts yet, for which I'm grateful. A couple of SSKs were found in the Americas when their courses took them into water that was so shallow they had to put their masts above water, allowing them to be detected on radar. The Asturias carrier group took care of another sub off the Brazilian coast, and P-3s got lucky in mid-ocean as they were prepping a convoy route. Total kills of Warsaw Pact subs are now at 6 SSKs (plus 1 Cuban SSK) and 4 SSNs, all of them Victor I or IIIs. No sign of the truly modern subs yet, nor of any SSGNs, which could be a big problem if (when) they show up. Hopefully they're all busy up north fighting the carrier groups around Iceland.

In the Caribbean I'm nervous that the Cubans will bring a few airplanes out of maintenance depots or dispersed sites, so I've been bombing their runways to crater them and try to prevent any unpleasant surprises in that respect.Honduras and Nicaragua have been quiet since their aircraft probes on Day 1, so I'm leaving them alone. (Crap. Spoke to soon. Goblin directly in front of my Panama convoys! But fortunately just Tuna.) Venezuela is watching, but so far no hostile action, despite some close passes with some of the Constitucion class patrol boats. I am worried about the one patrolling between the Dominican and Puerto Rico, which will probably sail right through my Panama convoys, which should be interesting.

Things are also interesting down in the Falklands. My MPAs have spotted three Mekos patrolling off the Argentine coast, which is to be expected, along with regular visits from the LearJets. A bit more of a surprise was the warship about 500 miles to the ENE of the Falklands. I had not expected them to be so far out. This has prompted Nimrod searches in the area, and an overflight of South Georgia, but so far nothing else has shown up there. Much more alarming was the sub that stuck up its periscope within spitting distance of the Port Stanley docks! Fortunately the Jupiter was nearby, and I was able to rush in an ASW helicopter. This was well within my territorial waters and much too dangerous to let go, so I sank it. So far no response from the Argentines. Fingers crossed... I'm very concerned that this was a special forces insertion, preparatory to a landing, so I've been sending FLIR equipped helicopters to scour the area (and other likely positions), but so far no sign of anything. Unfortunately the odds of actually spotting a special forces team is remote.

Sad news for the crew of the P-3 that was visiting the Nigerian coast. Despite staying well out to sea they had a visit from a Mig-25, and were subsequently shot down, but they did have time to report a couple of ships in the area. I think I'll have to keep some fighters and MPA in Ascension in case of aggressive action from that direction. (I'm still betting on a Bear to cue an SSG or SSGN.)

New merchants keep reporting in, and so far I've been dashing them to catch up with the tail of recently departed convoys, but soon I'll have to start gathering for new convoys. Sloooow!


You mentioned you might work on it this weekend, so here's a bunch of minor bits and pieces:

Grammar police!
In the side briefing "Land Forces. A minor flair up...", and "RAF reinforcements are also on their way via Assentation Island."
You've also got Ascension as Ascention on the map.
The merchant arrival for Texas has "Another ship checking in near Huston"
The briefing message for the first group of warships has the Karlsruhe's arrival date as March, instead of February.
In the opening briefing "'used for training air defence and in DACT (Dissimilar Air Combat Training) along with xxx."

Is the A 14 Patino intended to be in Asturias Group? It's currently alone at speed 0 behind the group.

Several of the TGs are at full stop at the beginning (Stump, Banckert, Kennedy).

SSN664 Sea Devil starts surfaced, as does SSN 668 Spadefish.

The helicopters in TG Espero start with no loadouts.

The South African oiler A 302 isn't UNREP capable, so I'm not sure what role it is intended to serve. Ornamental? I parked it in port so it doesn't get shot by anything.

There aren't enough AIM-7Fs at NAS Jacksonville to rearm the F-4Ss.

The Venezuelan Constitucions are on ASW patrol, but have no ASW capability.

The Venezuelan Grupo A is sitting at Speed 0. (Although this may be because they aren't hostile?)

Should Guantanamo have the same sort of air defences it has in Caribbean Fury?

Could the Nimrods have the Sidewinder version of their ASW loadout? I've always thought that was cool - the worlds biggest fighter - and it would be a great way to make the player suspect the presence of enemy MPA at every turn. (Although I'm already suspecting that now, so what the heck!)

A dock near Panama would be handy for refueling purposes, and I believe there was one in Caribbean Fury.

Anyway, enough trivia! Thanks again for this massive undertaking.

[Gunner98]

Thank you Andrew, and Excroat3 for all the points. This one has not been tested all the way through and it seems I may have been rushing a bit to get it out. Your points are very helpful.

I will tidy it up this weekend and get another version out. Then it's on to NF 12.1 'Bump in the night'

Thanks again guys - can't do this without you!

[AndrewJ]

A couple more bits: Some of the Argentine ships (Almirante Brown, Drummond) have no home port, so will probably run out of fuel before the scenario is over.

Edit: looks like the Nigerians are that way too.

HMS Active shows up on the Biologics side. (Just as my wounded T-AKR was headed nearby to port! I was scrambling around in a panic to launch a response, wondering about some crazy Russian frigate force making a Channel Dash, until my coast guard helicopter got a positive ID. A real 'nobody got the memo' situation. Makes you wonder how often this sort of interdepartmental communication problem crops up in real operations.)

[AndrewJ]

A quick question. I managed to somehow corrupt my save, and eliminate all the docking facilities at all the piers in the game. I could fix it with a deep rebuild, but then I lose the fuel state of all my units, so I'm going through and replacing all the piers manually. Will this mess up any upcoming events, in which newly arriving ships may need the specific original pier to show up or function?

[Gunner98]

Andrew

That should be fine, I think that the pier operations were just starting when I built this one so I didn't make anything dependant on them

B

[Excroat3]

Nigeria:

The action started right after the Kennedy CVBG arrived off of the Nigerian coast. A S-3 with 2 F-14D escorts were sent to investigate the coastline, and immediately got jumped by 3 Mig-25s. The Migs waited until they had rear shots on all 3 aircraft before breaking their neutrality and firing on the Americans. Through desperate maneuvers and sheer luck, the 2 Tomcats were able to evade the missiles, and turn the tables on the Mig-25s. In a furious 30 seconds, all 3 Migs were shot down by a combination of phoenix, sparrow, and sidewinder missiles. During the dogfight, nobody had noticed that the S-3 had not been able to disengage and was shot down by a stray missile. The S-3s death had not been in vain, however. Before it had died, it had detected and classified 2 Nigerian ships patrolling near the coastline. 2 Harpoon equipped S-3s and 2 more F-14Ds were sent to prosecute the threat. This time, 3 more Migs came up to meet them, as well as a jammer aircraft. The S-3s were able to get their harpoons off before they were shot down by Mig-25s hiding in the cloud of jamming. The Tomcat pilots, furious that they were not able to protect their friends, pursued the retreating Nigerian aircraft and shot down 2 Migs and the jammer. Afterwards, the front remained relatively quiet until an E-2 detected Badger aircraft headed towards the carrier group. The badgers were able to detect the carrier group before dying to the intercepting tomcats, and soon after 30+ Nigerian aircraft were detected headed towards the carrier group. Every plane that could carry an air-to-air missile was scrambled, and in 10 minutes, they were all over the Nigerian strike group.

F-14s dived through the formation of fighter-bombers, taking out several in one pass. They turned around and began to engage with guns, which was a bad idea, as one Nigerian Jaguar was able to down an unsuspecting F-14. As the remainder of the Tomcats broke off, the Hornets began to salvo sparrows at the remaining aircraft, and successfully downed the rest of the strikers.

The Kennedy air group planned a strike on the airbase that the aircaft had originated from, but with only 5 Hornets and 7 Tomcats operational, there wasn't much that they could do. They settled for a SEAD strike on the SAM defenses around the airbase instead, to weaken the defenses for any future strike by Air Force bombers or long range cruise missiles. In a string of bad luck and bad timing, as soon as the strike force and its escorts were committed to the SEAD mission, Nigerian Mig-23s began to swarm the carrier and her escorts. SM-2s flew off the rails and CIWS miniguns roared as Mig-23s flew low over the carrier group. Miraculously, not a single ship was damaged. The carrier recovered her fighters, and the group headed back north to the mid-Atlantic, leaving a much reduced Nigerian armed forces in its wake.

Losses and expenditures for the entire campaign:

SIDE: NATO
===========================================================

LOSSES:
-------------------------------
1x AV-8B Harrier II [EAV-8B Day-Only, VA.1B Matador II]
1x DDG 19 Tattnall [Charles F. Adams]
1x F/A-18C Hornet
1x F-14D Tomcat
2x F-16A Falcon ADF
1x FF 1052 Knox
1x FFG 7 Oliver Hazard Perry
3x S-3B Viking
3x SH-2F Seasprite
2x Tornado F.3
1x Tornado GR.1


EXPENDITURES:
------------------
6x 127mm/54 HE-CVT [HiFrag]
1x 20mm Mk12 x 2 [50 rnds]
15x 20mm/85 M61A1 Vulcan Burst [100 rnds]
4x 20mm/85 Mk15 Phalanx Blk 0 Burst [200 rnds]
18x 25mm GAU-12/U Burst [60 rnds]
4x 27mm Mauser BK-27 Burst [30 rnds]
5x 27mm Mauser BK-27 x 2 Burst [60 rnds]
16x ADM-141A TALD [Active RF]
11x AGM-65F Maverick IR
32x AGM-84D Harpoon IC
10x AGM-84E SLAM
93x AIM-54C Phoenix
56x AIM-7M Sparrow III
50x AIM-7P Sparrow III
18x AIM-9L Sidewinder
108x AIM-9M Sidewinder
31x AIM-9P-4 Sidewinder
6x CPU-123 Paveway II LGB
4x FIM-92B Stinger POST
22x GBU-24B/B Paveway III LGB [BLU-109A/B]
26x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
6x Generic Chaff Salvo [8x Cartridges]
14x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
84x HYDRA 70mm Rocket
8x Mk182 SRBOC Chaff [Seduction]
4x Mk20 Rockeye II CB [247 x Mk118 Dual Purpose Bomblets]
13x Mk214 Sea Gnat Chaff [Seduction]
24x Mk82 500lb LDGP
21x Mk83 1000lb LDGP
16x RGM-109C Tomahawk Blk II TLAM-C
2x RGM-84C Harpoon IB
1x RGM-84D Harpoon IC
46x RIM-66E SM-1MR Blk VI
95x RIM-66J SM-2MR Blk II
8x RIM-66L-1 SM-2MR Blk III
43x RIM-67C SM-2ER Blk II
100x Sky Flash Super TEMP Mod.



SIDE: Argentena
===========================================================

LOSSES:
-------------------------------
36x A-4AR Fightinghawk
2x D 10 Almirante Brown [Meko 360H2]
16x Dagger A [Nesher S, Mod Mirage 5]
18x Kfir C.2
4x Learjet 35A
16x Mirage F.1CE [C.14]
16x Mirage IIIEA
1x Structure (Pier [Large, 25.1-45m])
1x Structure (Pier [Very Large, 45.1-200m])
1x Tu-142MK Bear F Mod 3


EXPENDITURES:
------------------
18x 127mm/54 OTO Melara Compact HECVT
42x 40mm/70 Twin Breda Compact Burst [32 rnds]
17x Aspide
37x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
27x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
1x Generic Flare Salvo [4x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
9x R.550 Magic 1
2x Shafrir 2




SIDE: Venezuela
===========================================================

LOSSES:
-------------------------------
2x A/C Hangar (2x Medium Aircraft)
6x AB.212 ASW
1x An-12BK-PP Cub C
12x AT-27 Tucano [EMB-312]
1x Boeing 707-320C(KC) Tanker
6x F 21 Mariscal Sucre [Lupo]
12x F-16A Falcon
12x F-5A Freedom Fighter [CF-5A]
1x Falcon 20DC SIGINT
6x MiG-25P Foxbat A
2x MiG-25RBT Foxbat B
18x Mirage 50EV
4x Mirage 5V
12x Mirage IIIEV
3x PC 11 Constitucion
3x PC 12 Federacion
1x Structure (Pier [Large, 25.1-45m])
1x Structure (Pier [Very Large, 45.1-200m])


EXPENDITURES:
------------------
48x 127mm/54 OTO Melara Compact HECVT
5x 20mm/85 M61A1 Vulcan Burst [100 rnds]
82x 40mm/70 Twin Breda Compact Burst [32 rnds]
6x 76mm/62 Compact HE Burst [4 rnds]
4x AA-6 Acrid A [R-40R, SARH]
4x AIM-9L Sidewinder
62x Aspide
46x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
7x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
4x Mk82 500lb LDGP
2x Mk83 1000lb LDGP
30x Otomat Mk2 Mod I
33x SCLAR Chaff



SIDE: WP
===========================================================

LOSSES:
-------------------------------
1x Bunker (Comm Center)
1x Diesel (400k Liter Tank)
1x Diesel Bunker (150k Liter Tank)
6x SA-6a Gainful [2P25] TEL
10x SA-6b Gainful [2P25] TEL
4x SA-8b Gecko Mod-0 [9A33BM2] TELAR
1x Structure (Pier [Large, 25.1-45m])
1x Structure (Pier [Very Large, 45.1-200m])
9x Tu-16K-26PM Badger G Mod
2x Vehicle (Fire Dome [9S35])
2x Vehicle (Straight Flush [1S91])


EXPENDITURES:
------------------
10x AS-6 Kingfish A Mod 3 [KSR-5M, ASM]
11x Generic Chaff Salvo [4x Cartridges]
18x SA-6a Gainful [9M336]
3x SA-6b Gainful [9M336]
12x SA-8b Gecko Mod-0 [9M33M2]



SIDE: Nigeria
===========================================================

LOSSES:
-------------------------------
2x An-12BK-IS Cub D
1x F 83 Erinmi [Vosper Mk9]
1x F 89 Aradu [Meko 360]
14x Jaguar A
18x MiG-21MF Fishbed J
16x MiG-23BN Flogger H
6x MiG-25P Foxbat A
2x MiG-25RBK Foxbat B


EXPENDITURES:
------------------
9x 127mm/54 OTO Melara Compact HECVT
1x 23mm Gsh-23L Burst [40 rnds]
8x 40mm/70 Single Bofors Burst [4 rnds]
26x 40mm/70 Twin Breda Compact Burst [32 rnds]
3x 76mm/62 Compact HE Burst [4 rnds]
5x AA-6 Acrid A [R-40R, SARH]
1x AA-6 Acrid B [R-40T, IR]
4x AA-8 Aphid [R-60T]
8x Aspide
5x Generic Chaff Salvo [4x Cartridges]
9x Generic Chaff Salvo [5x Cartridges]
3x Generic Flare Salvo [3x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
4x Protean Chaff
4x SCLAR Chaff



Thank you gunner for the great scenario, and I'm looking forward to the new version over the weekend!

[Gunner98]

Poking around in my old saves, I also notice that the unfriendly neutrals start considering NATO hostile very early on, before they are ever shot at or approached. Possibly due to shots fired at Cuba? Not sure if this is intentional. I think this might also mean that if NATO shoots back they would then get the major penalty for violating neutrality, which would be odd, since the other side has already opened fire.

Going through this now - the points are lost only when the geographic neutrality is violated, so I think that's OK. NATO can defend itself without losing points but any offensive action against the territory will trigger it.

Fixed the other bits though.

B

[Gunner98]

I didn't seem to lose points for losing aircraft or losing ships

Fixed

I got points for killing enemy ships but not for destroying aircraft

Fixed

The naval base at Guiria is not set to auto detect

Correct - they are supposed to be acting discreetly

The patrol boat outside of the Panama Canal is on an ASW mission, not sure if you want that to be an ASuW mission instead.

WAD. If they were on ASuW they would follow the merchants too closely. On an ASW ptl without ASW systems they will wander around and look innocent[;)]

Getting to the Lua stuff now.

B

[Gunner98]

Ok here is version 1.3

Thank you very much to AndrewJ, Excroat3 and magi for your help.

Change log

Change log NF 12.6 V1.3
• 2x Hawk Sites Panama
• 1x Hawk site G’tmo
• Cleaned up briefing
• Tightened up neutrality violation events and zones
• Added an intelligence assessment for Venezuela including mention of a 90 mile neutrality zone.
• Fixed up some scoring issues
• Sorted out the Lua and teleport issues for reinforcements
• Fixed up some of the TGs
• Fixe up the Sparrows at Jacksonville, of course each model of F-4 takes a different version of Aim-7 and Aim-9!
• The Nims can take Sidewinders but only in the Harpoon loadout. Added some Harpoons 
• Ports for Panama
• Radars and ports for Argentina
• Ports for Nigeria
• A few more surprises

Still need to do more work on the ports in Europe and on the east coast - later.

Enjoy

B

[Ferret69]

So I return to these forums and Gunner has posted another version of 12.6!!?? It's time to convoy...

Ferret

[magi]

i will just edit in some of these updates... it took me a week to play an hour of this thing.....

[Ferret69]

I'm going to be doing the same as magi, here's my first point:
SSN 688 Spadefish and SSN 664 Sea Devil start on the surface, running at ten knots.
A 14 Patino (P de Asturias group) still isn't fixed, it starts at 0 knots.
The following ships also start at 0 knots:
FFG 42 Klakring
FFG 6 Julius A Furer
F 88 Broadsword

[Gunner98]

Yup

Got that one. I think the only issue you will have is the reinforcements, I missed bringing over all of the Helo's on the ships. There are also problems with the USS Grayling and one of the French ships, cannot recall which. You'll just need to watch for those.

If a ship comes in but you cannot access the Helo - go to the Script Console cut this line into it and hit Run:

ScenEdit_SetUnitSide({side='Biologics', name='EXACT NAME OF Helicopter', newside='NATO'})

If either of you have any issues just PM me and I'll try and sort them out for you

[Ferret69]

Not a complaint, just an idea:
Since we already have some RSA units, how about throwing in some of their late-model Buccaneer for some naval and land strike?

[Gunner98]

The RAF only had 2 Sqns of Buccaneer's remaining in the inventory:

12 Sqn Lossimouth 'Flying Foxes' 16 Buccaneer S2
208 Sqn Lossimouth 'Navy 8' 16 Buccaneer S2

12 Sqn is already in two scenarios; 7 & 11.1. It will be in a couple more as Norway is retaken
208 Sqn is the OTU and Replacement Sqn, judging by the casualties most players experienced in NF 7 'Plug the Gap' I figured that keeping one Sqn operational would be a heavy task.

If I was going to send 208 Sqn anywhere it would be to the Med, those Martel's would really help keep things tied down and there is less of a threat.

But since I'm keeping 208 in the background I could probably send a flight down to Mount Pleasant. Actually, I'll make them available at Lossi and the player can move them wherever with tanker support.

Could also do the same with Jaguar's

54 Sqn has gone to Norway. 16 Sqn is fighting it out in 'The Gap'. 41 Sqn is the OTU and Repl unit and on standby to go to the Med. I could squeeze a flight of 4 to this scenario. Both types have at least 20 in war stock.

Next release.

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[Ferret69]

I mean SAAF Buccaneers, carrying a combination of old iron bombs and new PGMs.

[Gunner98]

OK gottcha

I'm noting that there were only 16 purchased: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackburn_Buccaneer

The Sqn retired in 91: http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforc ... 4-squadron

And they had 13 major incidents with quite a few Write offs: http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforc ... mmaries/17

So including them might be a stretch. Perhaps some Impala's http://www.saairforce.co.za/the-airforc ... pala-mk-ii


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