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Unit fully entrenched the same turn it moved into an empty clear hex

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Hi - in one of my current PBEM games I noticed something weird with one of my opponents units, he moved forward a British Tank unit into a clear (arid) non-fortified hex in Egypt (hex 199,125) to attack one of my units, but when I checked the unit I noticed that it had maximum entrenchment (i.e. 2) even though the unit has only just moved to that hex. There wasn't a unit in that hex in the previous turn, but that shouldn't make any difference anyway. Am I missing something, or is this a bug? Pretty major one as it's made that unit much less vulnerable to counter-attack. Not happy with this at all :-(

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BTW the unit above the British 2nd Tanks, it, the WDF Army, moved into a similar hex (199, 124), but has 0 entrenchment, as expected, so why has the 2nd Tanks gained 2 entrenchment instantly? I repeat, there is *no* fortification in hex 199,125. In most situations this would make much difference, but it's pretty critical here, as it basically wrecks any chance I have of an even remotely a successful counter-attack against the British 2nd Tanks, which also means I will very vulnerable to further attacks.
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Also noticed another possible oddity, I attacked the British WDF with an Italian Infantry Army that had 2 entrenchment and which didn't move this turn. There was a British Artillery unit providing defensive fire, but my italian unit lost ALL it's entrenchment (both steps) even though it only attacked once - how can this be? Also one of my Tactical bombers that attacked somehow lost it's entrenchment too - it didn't move and had one entrenchment at the start of the turn. This is with patch 1.08
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RE: Unit fully entrenched the same turn it moved into an empty clear hex

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Seen the same bug with a german tank moving near to the BEF that was in Le Havre. During Allied turn the tank has gained magically 2 levels of entrenchment and furthermore it didn't loose entrenchment after it was attacked by a strategic bomber !
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ORIGINAL: oxford_guy

Hi - in one of my current PBEM games I noticed something weird with one of my opponents units, he moved forward a British Tank unit into a clear (arid) non-fortified hex in Egypt (hex 199,125) to attack one of my units, but when I checked the unit I noticed that it had maximum entrenchment (i.e. 2) even though the unit has only just moved to that hex. There wasn't a unit in that hex in the previous turn, but that shouldn't make any difference anyway. Am I missing something, or is this a bug? Pretty major one as it's made that unit much less vulnerable to counter-attack. Not happy with this at all :-(

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Hi Oxford,

Can you tell me if this is with v1.08 or with the latest Beta?
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ORIGINAL: oxford_guy

Also noticed another possible oddity, I attacked the British WDF with an Italian Infantry Army that had 2 entrenchment and which didn't move this turn. There was a British Artillery unit providing defensive fire, but my italian unit lost ALL it's entrenchment (both steps) even though it only attacked once - how can this be? Also one of my Tactical bombers that attacked somehow lost it's entrenchment too - it didn't move and had one entrenchment at the start of the turn. This is with patch 1.08

If the Artillery is upgraded to Artillery Weapons Level-1 then this is possible as each level of Artillery Weapons research increases de-entrenchment by +1, so the Artillery would go from de-entrenchment 1 to 2 for that defensive artillery strike against your Italian unit.

The Tactical bomber losing its entrenchment appears to be a bug and I'll have that corrected as it seems to affect all air units when they attack and then are de-selected.
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ORIGINAL: Yeremenko

Seen the same bug with a german tank moving near to the BEF that was in Le Havre. During Allied turn the tank has gained magically 2 levels of entrenchment and furthermore it didn't loose entrenchment after it was attacked by a strategic bomber !

Hi Yeremenko,

Strategic Bombers do not have de-entrenchment capability, whereas Medium Bombers do and Tactical Bombers will after at least 2 upgrades of Ground Attack Weaponry.

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Thanks Oxford, I'm having a hard time repeating this with the latest version on my end but I'll keep digging.
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Thanks, pretty nasty bug those tanks getting full entrenchment after moving and attacking...
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Hi Hubert,

My mistake with strategic bombers ! It was probably a flashback from SC2 ... [;)]
However I've really seen this tank moving adjacent to me who started next turn at lvl 2 entrenchement !
But if you have found the bug it's perfect [8D]
And many thank you for your work on SC3, signed from an old fan ! [&o]
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