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What's the difference between dedicated memory and display memory? I have an integrated video card!
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What's the difference between dedicated memory and display memory? I have an integrated video card!

I am assuming your meaning dedicated video memory...basically the amount of memory your video card has available to support graphics in games and such. For this game, 1GB of video memory is listed as the minimum requirement. You just need to look up your video card type and find out if it has the required amount. Sometimes games will still work under the requirements, but no guarantee. You can always try it on steam and return it if it doesn't work (as long as you play less than 2 hours and within 2 weeks). Should be plenty of time to find out and really the only way you'll ever know for sure.
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What's the difference between dedicated memory and display memory? I have an integrated video card!

I am assuming your meaning dedicated video memory...basically the amount of memory your video card has available to support graphics in games and such. For this game, 1GB of video memory is listed as the minimum requirement. You just need to look up your video card type and find out if it has the required amount. Sometimes games will still work under the requirements, but no guarantee. You can always try it on steam and return it if it doesn't work (as long as you play less than 2 hours and within 2 weeks). Should be plenty of time to find out and really the only way you'll ever know for sure.

So only dedicated memory is available for the game? The display memory has nothing to do about it? the display memory is a much larger number than the dedicated memory!
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What's the difference between dedicated memory and display memory? I have an integrated video card!

I am assuming your meaning dedicated video memory...basically the amount of memory your video card has available to support graphics in games and such. For this game, 1GB of video memory is listed as the minimum requirement. You just need to look up your video card type and find out if it has the required amount. Sometimes games will still work under the requirements, but no guarantee. You can always try it on steam and return it if it doesn't work (as long as you play less than 2 hours and within 2 weeks). Should be plenty of time to find out and really the only way you'll ever know for sure.

So only dedicated memory is available for the game? The display memory has nothing to do about it? the display memory is a much larger number than the dedicated memory!

Not sure I understand...and not sure why focusing on dedicated memory. If your video card has 1GB, then you meet the minimum requirements.
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What's the difference between dedicated memory and display memory? I have an integrated video card!

I am assuming your meaning dedicated video memory...basically the amount of memory your video card has available to support graphics in games and such. For this game, 1GB of video memory is listed as the minimum requirement. You just need to look up your video card type and find out if it has the required amount. Sometimes games will still work under the requirements, but no guarantee. You can always try it on steam and return it if it doesn't work (as long as you play less than 2 hours and within 2 weeks). Should be plenty of time to find out and really the only way you'll ever know for sure.

So only dedicated memory is available for the game? The display memory has nothing to do about it? the display memory is a much larger number than the dedicated memory!

Display memory draws from the computers cpu which lowers the values of the cpu performance level. While you might have enough memory for the graphics with a display memory you might then not have enough for the games needs.

On the other hand if you have dedicated memory it won't use the cpu memory until you've used all the dedicated memory up. Therefore no real draw on the cpu and more memory from it left for the games performance.

That's what I've gathered from dedicated vs display memory.
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the game works well with 1GB of dedicated memory, but if you only 512MB of dedicated memory you need to alter the settings in game to lower some of the eye candy down a bit, or it will be jerky.

plenty of testing has been done on this part, for me i got it to run with, on a very low spec dual core celeron T3000 @ 1.80GHz

Display Memory: 1565 MB
Dedicated Memory: 64 MB
Shared Memory: 1501 MB

in my beta tests, with every thing set at it's lowest

http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtop ... 88&t=79647

the game more about video than CPU from the developers other games in the series, eg Pike and Shot and Sengoku Jidai: Shadow of the Shogun etc...

with Dedicated Memory: 499 MB or more, medium settings can be used on most maps, but maybe altered for the largest map and unit battles.

so yes it will work with less, just siding on the side of caution so everyone knows what to expect from a given set of hardware results.

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Good Day everyone.
Since I've played the Total War series for many years I thought I would post a brief comparison between that series and Field of Glory 2.
Battles:
Both games allow you to set up and deploy units before battle (unless surprised in TW.)
TW's battles tend to be fast-paced and get very bloody very quickly. I've found that FoG2 allows for more battlefield strategies & tactics since evenly matched units can remain in pitched combat for longer periods of time, and the engine is turn-based.
Unit variety:
Both games offer a wide variety of units, but I believe you get more actual variety in terms of unit types, abilities, etc... in FoG2.
Economy:
There is no economic model in FoG2, although you do get some options for purchasing units before a battle.
Agents/diplomacy:
TW offers a mechanic for agents and diplomats to interact with other nations on a strategic map. FoG2 focuses on the battles.
Overall, the use of a strategic map in TW makes it a very different game experience than FoG2. If battlefield strategy is your forte'however, than I think FoG2 gets the nod.
Just some initial thoughts from a forum newbie....
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welcome to the forum direhobbit
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yes i also use a custom view as well rico21 while on the beta
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I am assuming your meaning dedicated video memory...basically the amount of memory your video card has available to support graphics in games and such. For this game, 1GB of video memory is listed as the minimum requirement. You just need to look up your video card type and find out if it has the required amount. Sometimes games will still work under the requirements, but no guarantee. You can always try it on steam and return it if it doesn't work (as long as you play less than 2 hours and within 2 weeks). Should be plenty of time to find out and really the only way you'll ever know for sure.

So only dedicated memory is available for the game? The display memory has nothing to do about it? the display memory is a much larger number than the dedicated memory!

Display memory draws from the computers cpu which lowers the values of the cpu performance level. While you might have enough memory for the graphics with a display memory you might then not have enough for the games needs.

On the other hand if you have dedicated memory it won't use the cpu memory until you've used all the dedicated memory up. Therefore no real draw on the cpu and more memory from it left for the games performance.

That's what I've gathered from dedicated vs display memory.

Thank you, that explains it very well!
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I guess that I'll have to pass on this one! Even though I have a new desktop the integrated graphics card isn't up to the requirements for FOG II. I would cost me more than the game to add a sound card and power supply. I have a GS 8000 with 512 MB from an earlier computer but it had a larger wattage (300) power supply. This one only has 180 watt! Something that I didn't take into account when I bought it!

Thanks for the information...
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Thank you!
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Well, Toby you could give the Steam version a shot as it's not really going to cost you anything to try as long as you refund it within less than 2 hours or 14 days.

I'm reading that it's working on XP and thas not even supported by microsoft anymore and if you turn everything down to min Zak is saying it will work on 512mg dedicated memory.

It's only over if you give up without trying and believe me this game is worth the try. Best game I've played in a long long time. So long I can't even remember how long it was.
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I have FOG1. I found it very boring. And ugly.

is this a much different beast? it certainly looks impressive.
I cannot recall why I found FOG1 so dull. I think there was a strange mechanic. Archers couldn't shoot over line troops or something.It was part of the original table top rules.
Anyway, would you say this was a different engine?
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FOG II is based upon the same table top rules.

However graphically FOG II is a totally different beast. The engine is in the same family as Pike and Shot.

As has been mentioned, if you buy it on steam you have two hours I believe to get a refund.

After playing it I do not think you will want your money back.
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I have FOG1. I found it very boring. And ugly.
I also thought that FOG1 was kinda ugly, FOG2 is much better-looking.

I didn't find FOG1 boring, but eventually got tired of the seemingly random results generated in combat. I understand that this part of the game has been revamped, and the effects seem noticeable, although I haven't played enough yet to confirm 100%.

Archers still can't fire over lines of troops, so if that is your main gripe for some reason, this might not be the game for you...but why does that trouble you?

Generally the game is pretty awesome, and if Steam has that refund period people are referring to, I would definitely check it out. Tons of content (with more coming), an extremely responsive and knowledgeable developer, and a great community--what more could you ask for? [8D]
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