US vs. Ger PBM contest ( Ammo Sgt. contest :D ).

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US vs. Ger PBM contest ( Ammo Sgt. contest :D ).

Post by Frank W. »

Okay, the overall terms are clear:

>>5000 points 100 x200 random map no mines in meeting engaements ( except what engineers lay during the game everything at default C&C off Rareity off - like ammo sgt. said.

i give you 3 map choices here. these are 100x140 and 100x160 maps. i think 100x200 is a little too big. these map sizes will do for only 5k points, or ?

the 3 maps overwrites your map no. 12-13-14 in the map folder ( these were small default maps, so i think no one will miss them ).

everyone interestet in the topic can give his vote which map should be used, not only the players. poll lasts for 1 week !

still 2 open positions by the way:

1 experienced ( no vet ) for GER or US and 1 newbie player for GER.

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viking: GER VET
rbrunsman:US VET
frankw: US or GER EXP
sonni: newbie US
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how about other things like infiltrators, arty + air limits etc ?? should this be played w/ the option that the US player can have let´s say 5% more arty and 1 more air section than the german player ( if air will be used at all ? ) to simulate the suppority of these weapons for the US ???? 25-30 turns ??

i just read that sonni doesn´t have H2H and can´t d/l it the next time..

so H2H or 7.1 ?

there´s is no hurry btw. we can even wait till ( if ? ) the new SPWAW is out. i

frank

ps: for ppl. who need more info on this look in the "Bazooka Accuracy" thread by Ammo Sgt.

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Post by Frank W. »

unzip into /map folder.

if you want to keep the orig. map
make a backup of them !
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Post by rbrunsman »

I vote we use v7.1.

I don't like are units because of the free scouting attributed to it.

I thought AmmoSgt said we should play with no restrictions on purchases other than the prelaid mines.
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Post by Frank W. »

>>vote we use v7.1.

i play either. doesn´t matter for me

>>I don't like are units because of the free scouting attributed to it.

okay. no air then.

>>I thought AmmoSgt said we should play with no restrictions on purchases other than the prelaid mines.

if the other´s agree i agree, too

on the bigger and more open maps it will hopefully be a more tactical game than the "no restrictions slaughter" game i´m playing against vath
:D

viking ? your opinion ? hope you are prepared to give rbrunsmans GI´s a beating ;)
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Post by rbrunsman »

Your other post had me as the Germans. Now you have me as the US. Which is it? I don't care.
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Post by Frank W. »

my mistake in the 1st post !

edited it.
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Post by Sonni »

I just finished my H2Hfr download, I only have to figure out how I'll get it to my computer at home (I am visiting my parents house and am abusing their connection :) )

I'll propably have to burn it on CD or something. Anyway I'm now ok for both H2H and 7.1.

I thought that the idea was to allow everyone to use their points as they like, so I vote for this. No air though.
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Post by maniacalmonkey »

I'd like to apply for the open German Newbie position. My vote would be for v7.1 rather than H2H, but I could do either. Just lemme know what to do :)

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would like to apply for experienced;)
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Post by vahauser »

I'm interested.

What is the battle date?

I can only play 7.1.

With only 5,000 points I'd prefer the smallest of the maps.
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Post by Frank W. »

okay. closed !

this will be the games:

vets: viking ( ger ) vs. rb

exp: frank w. vs. krec
( which side do you want, krec ? )

newbies: maniacalmonkey ( ger ) vs. sonni

terms should be clear, too:

map that get´s most votes
good vis.
good weather
rarity off
no air
no buying restrictions
command off
no prelaid mines

it seems most ppl. favor 7.1 before
H2H - perhaps we have luck and
the new update will be there in a
few days (?) so we can use this to
make shure all have the same oob +
version.

players should contact each other to
swap e-mail adresses..

have a nice weekend, gents and
prepare for battle.
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Post by Frank W. »

Originally posted by vahauser
I'm interested.

What is the battle date?

I can only play 7.1.

With only 5,000 points I'd prefer the smallest of the maps.


hello vahauser:

we can of course make a 4th battle.
that would be good, if we want to
get a kind of winner of the contest.
so the winners ( if not draws ) of the 4 battles play another match ( but than with the other side ! ).

and the winners of these play for the AMMO SGT CHAMP title !!


in which category do you will fit, mr. vahauser ??

just select + vote the map you like most !

date ? juli or aug 44 ?
length of battle ? 25- 30 turns ?

bye

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Post by Krec »

dont care:cool: either is fine
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Post by maniacalmonkey »

25 turns should suffice for the pride of the Fatherland to kick the stinking Yanks out of the Reich :D

I'll get in touch with Sonni right after I'm done polishing my Iron Cross.
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Post by maniacalmonkey »

Frank; I tested the map (#3) and it seems that troops are falling back in the wrong direction (ie. towards the enemy!). Are you sure you've set it up right?
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Post by Frank W. »

yep. noticed this , too.

it´s not my fault the game does this.

the default should be US on the left + Ger on the right side. sometimes the game changes this and even set´s the reeinforcement + retreat hexes on the wrong side.

must try something out.........
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Post by CommadantFox »

The nice man told me to sgin up here to fight vahauser.....I'll take whatever he wants. No problem here ^^
I am not retreating...I am merely performing a strategic retrograde manuvaer!
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I'm in but I'm toast against the US but I will try my best, I like you and all RB but now you must die
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Post by Frank W. »

it seems pbm´s don´t work right with
pre designed maps.
if no one knows a solution to this we must
use normal random maps. these should be 100x140 or 100x160 similar to ones i posted. that´s means quite open maps with space to manouver... but i thinkt he game selects quite good maps for france 44 battles.

let´s start this !

i hope the other players are in conatct already ?

pls. post if you are ready !

i will then make a 1st post for every pair in the DAR/AAR section where the players report the going of the games.
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Post by maniacalmonkey »

I e-mailed Sonni and eagerly await the start of the slaughter!

Wait...

Why are my company CO's trying to sneak out the back door?
When cities burn and armies turn,
and flee in disarray,
Cowards will cry 'tis best to fly
and fight another day,
But warriors know it in their marrow when they
die and fall,
It is better to have fought and lost than not have
fought at all.
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