Russians too weak in game version

[eriador08]

ORIGINAL: Hubert Cater

The potential historical benefits are still there however if an Axis player does not have an effective start to Barbarossa, as the Soviet player is then rewarded with the survival of these units for use later on.

This is what happened in my games twice. My opponent neglected russia for too long and concentrated on other things. When soviets entered the war most units could be saved. Especially HQs are great, when they survive. In those games i could start the push into the Reich from the start.

This is why it is important to attack first as axis.

[sveint]

Hubert, could you at least look at better enforcement of the Japan-USSR neutrality pact? You have events for all sorts of historical constraints but the non-aggression pact between these two countries is completely absent. Japan should fulfill some sort of conditions before being allowed to attack.

[BillRunacre]

If Japan is attacking the USSR, what are the UK, USA and India doing to take advantage of their involvement there?

[Mercutio]

ORIGINAL: BillRunacre

If Japan is attacking the USSR, what are the UK, USA and India doing to take advantage of their involvement there?

IRL or how is it responding in the game? Before Japan declares war on the US or after? Before Germany declares war on the USSR or afterward?

No matter the scenario I think it should boost the morale of all nations in SE Asian as Japanese resources are being diverted. That could be the penalty.

Before Germany declared war on the USSR:
The western powers didn't like the USSR, especially for the non-aggression pact with Germany and dividing Poland. I don't think they would care.

Overall though a bad idea for the Axis as Russia would start mobilizing immediately and make it harder for Germany

Before Japan declares on the Allies:
Definitely the US would probably look at lend/lease, but really everything else is probably the same as above. What could be interesting is sharing some level 1 techs with Russia to help them out.

Strategy wise, moderately helpful in that it ties down Russian units. However other than the initial snatch and grab Japan's resources are probably better off elsewhere unless they got enough of China that they just want to hold it.

After everyone is fighting:
I doubt much would change as everyone is just fighting to hold their ground at first. Sending fleets that close to Japan would be suicide, although that would mean less resources were available for Japan to defend the Pacific and SE Asia. China would stand the most to gain simply by land resources of Japan being diverted.

If China had already fallen, you should have seen it coming. [8|]

[helmseye]

I do think that Russia should have armoured warfare already

[elxaime]

One strange thing I have noticed as USSR side is the often very late arrival of the Siberians. Historically, these units were present to launch an offensive in the winter of 1941-1942. In the game, they often arrive late in 1942. I am in a PBEM now and it is August 1942 and the Siberians still haven't shown up. I assume this is a roll of the luck, but it seems strange they are so late.

[BillRunacre]

ORIGINAL: elxaime

One strange thing I have noticed as USSR side is the often very late arrival of the Siberians. Historically, these units were present to launch an offensive in the winter of 1941-1942. In the game, they often arrive late in 1942. I am in a PBEM now and it is August 1942 and the Siberians still haven't shown up. I assume this is a roll of the luck, but it seems strange they are so late.

Hi elxaime

In this game, some units deploy in Siberia when the USSR joins the Allies, but there is no extra event so they will have to be operated to the west if you wish to use them there.

It's very different from our other games like War in Europe, as here once the USSR enters the war you have full control over those units in the east, and can transfer them (or not) at any time.

[Mercutio]

You can easily operate them or move them manually (takes a while) and have them entrench and rest up. If the Japanese player replaces the corps with garrisons, and you notice more units in China, that is your queue.
With the new changes to supply and added USSR units in the patch, that should help Russia quite a bit.

[elxaime]

ORIGINAL: BillRunacre
Hi elxaime

In this game, some units deploy in Siberia when the USSR joins the Allies, but there is no extra event so they will have to be operated to the west if you wish to use them there.

It's very different from our other games like War in Europe, as here once the USSR enters the war you have full control over those units in the east, and can transfer them (or not) at any time.

Ah, got it...thanks.

[CSSS]

I can beat the Germans at a +1 , if the Axis declare war in late June +2, it is always the early DOW that sinks the Russians. What can the Soviets do to slow down
the German Declaration?