Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[14yellow14]

Hi!

For moroccan F-16CJ/DJ you can add new weapons loadout:

AIM-9X
AGM-88B
AIM-120C-7




thanks!

[14yellow14]

New possible addition, the spanish frigate F-110 "Bonifaz"


16 cell VLS with ESSM Block II and SM-2MR Block IIIA/B and 8 Harpoon Block II

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clase_F-110


Lockheed Martin to equip Spanish F-110 frigates with AN/SPY-7(V)1

https://www.naval-technology.com/news/l ... ain-f-110/

THALES CAPTAS-4: the sonar of choice for the F-110 frigates

https://www.revistaejercitos.com/2020/0 ... tas-f-110/

[jun5896]

Could you add new Japanese Ship-to-Ship missile?

It called Type-17 [SSM-2], that based Type-12 Surface to Ship missile(Almost same performance)

But Type 17 missile range is 400km, That is improved version similarly Type-12 Kai(Also JGSDF will deploy this variants estimated yr 2022).

And Type-12 and Type-17 can guide with GPS-Updated Inertial.

Type-12 : 200 km (108 nmi; 124 mi)
Type-17 and Air to Ship, Improved Variants : 400 km (216 nmi; 249 mi)(Ship/air launched and improved version from wiki)

“The new missiles feature mid-course GPS guidance that is said to be more precise due to improved topography-matching and target-discrimination capabilities. The Type 12 also boasts shorter reload times and reduced lifecycle costs,” according to Jane’s.

https://news.usni.org/2014/06/18/china- ... ositioning

The ship-launched derivative of Type 12, designated as Type 17 (SSM-2) missile has been put into service and it is to start deploying from Maya-class destroyer. The range has doubled to 400 kilometers and is also planning to re-apply for the improved version of the surface-to-ship system and the air-launched variant for the P-1 patrol aircraft.

translate from original Japanese source.

The Ministry of Defense has begun to improve the Ground Self-Defense Force's surface-to-ship guided missiles (SSMs) deployed in the southwestern region to extend its range approximately twice as much as it is now. The aim is to increase the ability and deterrence of the Chinese military to increase its capabilities. The improved missile of the same type will also be installed on the Maritime Self-Defense Force patrol aircraft and used as an air-to-ship missile. Government officials said yesterday.

The latest 12-type SSM extends the range. Currently, the range is about 200 km, but it can be extended up to about 400 km. Troops will be deployed in 2023.

omit...

Prior to deployment to the Ground Self Defense Forces, the same type of missile will be mounted on the Maritime Patrol Aircraft in FY2022. The southwest region has a vast sea and airspace of about 1200 km. The Ministry of Defense has determined that the defense posture in the southwestern region will be deepened by the use of maritime patrol aircraft with excellent surveillance capabilities and active areas with long-range air-to-ship missiles.

https://www.sankei.com/politics/news/19 ... 04-n1.html (Japanese)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_12_S ... ip_Missile
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/17%E5%BC% ... E%E5%BC%BE (Japanese Wiki)



https://www.mod.go.jp/e/publ/w_paper/pd ... _4-2-3.pdf
Japan Ministry of Defense(https://www.mod.go.jp/e/index.html)

[jun5896]

SM-6 Block 1A can't mounted Mk41 VLS(29, 32, 61, 64 Cells) in newest DB3000 version(v481a).

#3541 - RIM-174A ERAM SM-6 Blk IA -- 2017, ABM, Anti-Surface



Could you add above Weapon ID to Weapon Record items?


I checked some cancelled or future weapon can mount via Weapon Record, Not a problem adding SM-6 Blk 1A.






#3138 - RIM-162E ESSM Blk II [Aegis Datalink]



It needs 160 capacity for Mk57 VLS.

[jun5896]

I looked something up Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force.


Type-97 Torpedo(LWT)

It contained within DB3000 database; Weapon ID Number - #314.

But There is some issue from database

Type 97 warhead DB - #16 - Type 97 Torpedo (400 DP) -> It's Light Weight Torpedo
#16 - Type 97 Torpedo (45 DP based on Mk50 ALWT ~ 74.8 DP - based on Mk46 Mod 5)

Weight : 350kg -> 320kg(710 lb) - wiki page
Run characteristics : 5.5 -> 7 minutes(5.5 is too short considering Light Weight Torpedo)



(Picture) Type 97 torpedo(Left) with Mk46 Mod 5 torpedo(Right), April 30 2017 Kanoya Air Base

At the end of the Cold War, Soviet attack submarines are capable of moving higher speed and diving at lower depth, rendering the torpedoes used by US navy and the JMSDF like the Mk-46 torpedo less able to deal with them. So a new type of torpedo needs to be developed to catch up with this development.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_97_l ... do_(G-RX4)



It was used for SH-60K(#2058), P-3C Orion(#351, yr 2000 variants) and 324mm HOS-303 Anti-Submarine torpedo Tubes.







(Picture) SH-60K has armed type 97 torpedo.

https://books.google.co.kr/books?id=BY4 ... 03&f=false

Also It can armed with vertical launching system (Mk41 VLS).
It called Type 07 Vertical Launch Anti-submarine rocket.






Akizuki-class destroyer(#2293), Asahi-class destroyer(#3128) and Maya-class destroyer(Maybe next time) can mounted Type 07 VL-ASROC missile with Mk41 VLS. It include warhead of Type-97 or Type-12 torpedo.(It must be discerned version A[Type 97, 2009] / version B[Type 12, 2012])

length : 4.5m(globalsecurity) ~ 6.535m(wiki - maybe add first stage motor)
span and diameter : 0.38m(globalsecurity) ~ 0.45m(wiki)
weight : 820kg(globalsecurity) ~ 1,284kg(wiki)
range : 28km ~ 30km(almost 15nm)

Anti-submarine missiles Type-07 VL-ASROC

Type-07 VL-ASROC anti-submarine missiles are manufactured in Japan on the basis of American RUM-139 VL-ASROC anti-submarine missiles. Type-07 VL-ASROC is a two-story anti-submarine anti-submarine engine rocket, the first stage motor is a high-speed acceleration motor, the second-stage engine is a solid fuel cruise. Type-07 VL-ASROC has a length of 4.5m, a diameter of 0.38m, a weight of 820 kg and a range of 28 km. The rocket carries a light anti-submarine torpedo Mk-46.

When there is information to detect the coordinates of the operating area of the enemy submarine from the radar system, the information and data on the target coordinates, the trajectory trajectory will be transmitted to the control computer system of ship. From the console, soldiers will carry out missile preparation operations, load target data into missile computer memory and rocket launchers. Inertial navigation system is used when flying to reach the target's location in the database. In a predetermined position on the trajectory trajectory, torpedoes will separate themselves from the missiles and fall into the sea by braking. This will help minimize the sound when falling into the water. After the parachute cut, the torpedo activates the self-guided part to perform the target search and attack operation. The strength of this rocket is to use the rocket's high speed to quickly destroy the submarine when it is detected. Type-07 VL-ASROC often uses multiple missile firing mechanism towards submarine area so the probability of destroying the target is very high. In addition, it also has the ability to self-destruct after a while if the target is not found.

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military ... mament.htm


Asahi class information

https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.p ... jmsdf.html

https://books.google.co.kr/books?id=BY4 ... do&f=false




In 2012, Type-12 Torpedo was introduced by JMSDF. It substitute for Type-97 Torpedo.

SH-60K, P-3, P-1(#2936), 324mm HOS-303 Tubes, Type 07 VL-ASROC can integrate. Nowaday JMSDF used primarily both with Type-97 and Type-12.

And It is optimized for shallow coastal water rather than Type 97 torpedo.

change Sub PoH is 85%, add Performance Details; Band 1, Creep Throttle 35 kt 0.4 fuel points per second

Here is information for Type-12 Torpedo

Introduction

The Type 12 is a modern lightweight torpedo of Japanese origin. It was developed to supplement and eventually replace the Type 97 in Japanese service. During development is was known as the G-RX5. Whereas the earlier Type 97 was developed as a deeper diving torpedo for use in oceans, the Type 12 is reportedly optimized for shallow coastal waters.

Launch platforms

The Type 12 can be launched from surface ships and various ASW aircraft. Either HOS-303 tripple torpedo tube or Type 07 vertical launch ASW rocket are used. Various types of ASW aircraft can drop the Type 12. These include the SH-60K Seahawk, P-3C Orion and indigenious P-1.

https://weaponsystems.net/system/413-Type+12

[jun5896]

F-2A(#346, yr 2018) can be carried ASM-3(#722) air-to-ship missile.







Also JASDF has planned to improve extended range variants(400 km (220 nmi; 250 mi)), ASM-3 Kai estimated after 2020 mid.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/ ... JWegndFzIU
https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/ ... ip-missile
https://www.janes.com/article/87346/jap ... e-missiles

[edsw]

Guys. Does it not seem to you that to mistake the "Doppler shift" in relation to air defense systems is wrong? Now the air defense systems are useless, enemy planes just turn around at 90 degrees and the missile loses its target. I understand why no one writes about this, it’s convenient to probably fight against an unarmed opponent.

[ai_beyondcontrol]

Hello, here are some suggestions for improvement regarding Chinese HQ-9 families. The current DB3K entries regarding them are very problematic.

The major source of information I used is Ref.[1] and [2]. Considering Ref.[1] from MDAA(Missile Defense Advocacy Alliance) and Ref.[2] comes from US TRADOC (US Army Training and Doctrine Command), these sources should be pretty reliable.

1. Name Update
It should be pointed out that both in Ref.[1] and [2] the naval variants are treated as separate variants. However, as separating existing HQ-9A and HQ-9B DB3K entries with their ship-borne counterpart might broke many scenarios where many Chinese units carrying them, a name update is proposed instead.
-【#1225-HQ-9A】suggested rename to: “HQ-9A/HHQ-9A”, as according to ref.[1] and [2], “HQ-9A” refers to the ground-based variant of the missile, while ship-borne variants on Type 052C is referred to “HHQ-9A” separately.
-【#2690-HQ-9B】suggested rename to:”HQ-9B/HHQ-9B”. Also, as the ground-based version of HQ-9B has been in parade on Oct.1st,2019, this entry shall no longer been considered as exclusive to be “naval”

2. Data Correction
- Currently Both 【#1225-HQ-9A】and 【#2690-HQ-9B】has a maximum anti-air range of 80nm in DB3K. This is significantly (20~50%) lower than the reported value from Ref.[1] and [2]. According to Ref [1] and [2] 【#1225-HQ-9A】 shall have a maximum range of 200km (107nm). For 【#2690-HQ-9B】 Ref.[2] suggest it has a further improved range to a maximum of 300km(162nm).
- Currently【#2690-HQ-9B】has a target max altitude of 80000ft AGL in DB3K, while Ref.[2] suggested it could engage targets at 30000m (98425ft).
- An important issue regarding the missile family is whether it incorporated Active Radar Homing terminal guidance. The listed reference point to a positive answer, however considering this is in constant debate and often has self-contradictory reports, I put it in Section 4.

3. Suggested Additional Variants to Introduce - Realistic
-According to Ref. [1] and [2] HQ-9 family has an anti-radiation variant named 【FT-2000】, according to Ref.[2] it has a reduced maximum range of 100km (54nm).
- According to Ref. [1] and [2] there is an export version of HQ-9, named【FD-2000】.

4.Suggested Additional Variants to Introduce - Hypothetical
Again, the hypothetical part is generally about whether the missile has an Active Radar Homing (ARH) terminal guidance. As this has been a controversial issue (even for sources quite reliable) I put it in hypothetical part, but it would be better if a direct modification is done on current entries.
-According to Ref.[1]【#2690-HQ-9B】are incorporated with Active Radar Homing(ARH) guidance, in addition to its current SARH/IR dual seeker.An hypothetical version of 【#2690-HQ-9B】 with ARH + SARH/IR as a new DB3K entry is hence purposed, if a direct modification to current entry not possible.
-Ref.[2] gave out self-contradictory statement on guidance of 【#1225-HQ-9A】, as in “Guidance” section it claims “inertial+ radio mid-course correction+ TVM terminal”, while in “Range Finder” section it claims the missile has “inertial + Active Radar Homing terminal”. Ref.[3] and [4] also describe HQ-9 family to have an ARH terminal. Similarly, we propose adding a hypothetical version of 【#1225-HQ-9A】using “inertial+ radio mid-course correction+ ARH terminal” ,if a direct modification to current entry not possible.
- Ref.[1] and [2] described a hypothetical variant named 【HQ-9C】 with Full Active Radar Homing.

References
(See the embedded figure)

[DeletedUser1730286045]

ORIGINAL: stilesw

Hello, I have recommendations of how to improve the Chinese inventory in Command.

Request noted. However, when you are able please provide documentation about these changes.
Thanks,
-WS

Hello, I have sent you a PM with the various links to demonstrate the points I made as I am unable to put the links in my forum post directly. Thanks - Ash

[Dimitris]

ORIGINAL: edsw
Guys. Does it not seem to you that to mistake the "Doppler shift" in relation to air defense systems is wrong? Now the air defense systems are useless, enemy planes just turn around at 90 degrees and the missile loses its target. I understand why no one writes about this, it’s convenient to probably fight against an unarmed opponent.

Are you sure you're in the correct thread and forum....?

[edsw]

ORIGINAL: Dimitris

ORIGINAL: edsw
Guys. Does it not seem to you that to mistake the "Doppler shift" in relation to air defense systems is wrong? Now the air defense systems are useless, enemy planes just turn around at 90 degrees and the missile loses its target. I understand why no one writes about this, it’s convenient to probably fight against an unarmed opponent.

Are you sure you're in the correct thread and forum....?

Are you sure you're in the correct thread and forum....?

No, but where could I write?

[Parel803]

Possible addition to the DB3K

HTMS Krabi class. Ocean Patrol Vessel. 2 units of 3 deliverd. Based on UK river class and very similar to the Brazilian Amazonas class.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUDIElfZCuA
https://www.naval-technology.com/projec ... l-vessels/
https://navaltoday.com/2019/08/05/royal ... class-opv/
http://thaidefense-news.blogspot.com/20 ... st_31.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTMS_Krabi
https://www.janes.com/article/91643/tha ... -class-opv
https://asianmilitaryreview.com/2019/12 ... ance-test/
https://today.line.me/th/pc/article/%E0 ... %AD-GpzOPL
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/pho ... id=2075787
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/pho ... id=1893824
https://twitter.com/hashtag/opv551?lang=fr
https://www.pptvhd36.com/news/%E0%B8%9B ... %99/107760
Other
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River-class_patrol_vessel
https://beegeagle.wordpress.com/2013/11 ... 56-corvet/
https://securitynewsdesk.com/kelvin-hug ... hnologies/
https://asianmilitaryreview.com/2019/12 ... ance-test/

Krabi class (551 Krabi & 552 Prachuap Khiri Khan). The 552 differs form the 551 with length of 100 meter and 4x AGM84 Harpoon.
Length 90,5 Beam 13,5 Draft 3,8 Height 7,7
Country Thailand Std Displacement 1800 Full Displacement 1850 Crew 42
Cruise speed 12 with range 7800 Full speed 24 with range 5500
Sensor Thales Variant radar Surveillance, Thales Lirod Mk2 Fire Control,
Sensor from images 552: I-band commercial nav radar, E/F surveillance radar (possible KH SharpEye) and ESM (?Terma)
Weapons: 1x76mm 62 Cal Oto Melara DP, 2x30mm Bushmaster Mk44 II AAA, 2x12.7mm machine guns, Terma C-Guard naval decoy
Comms: FIT10, TSB2520 IFF int/trnsp, Focon IP
AC Fac: 20 mtr helodeck (Super Lynx, AW139, H145M)
Docking Fac: 1x Rhib on both sides
Engine: 2x Mann 16V28/33D diesel engine, 14700 kW/10, 950HP, 2 shafts. 2X controllable pitch propellors
MMSI 567443000 Callsign HSNK

With regards

[Tailhook]

Anti-ship versions of the AS-17 Krypton [KH-31A and AD] (Weapons #1308 and #1309) are missing from a number of assets that should include them.

Both include the following from their own in-game descriptions. I have made the specific missing aircraft Bold and Underlined.

It is used by MiG-27/29K/29SMT, the Su-17/24M/25TM/30MK/35.

The ingame description provides the sources, as does the site from the weapon's makers.


I believe it stands to reason that this also includes the modernized Su-24M2. Additionally, according to Russian media, the Su-30SM can also carry the KH-31A and AD.

The KH-31A currently has some but not all of it's carriers listed. However the KH-31AD has no current in-game loadouts featured.

It would be beneficial if these could be added in as I'm working a scenario involving the missiles and Russia.

[stilesw]

SM-6 Block 1A can't mounted Mk41 VLS(29, 32, 61, 64 Cells) in newest DB3000 version(v481a).

Original documentation shows that the RIM-174 SM-6 Extended Range Active Missile (ERAM) was tested aboard the USS John Paul Jones (DDG-53) Arleigh Burke during exercises from 18–20 June 2014. It is a loadout option on that ship in DB3K_481+.

It does not show that it has been installed on other USN ships yet and will be likely added when published documentation supports it.

-WS

[Broncepulido]

SM-6 achieved IOC in 2013 (USS Kidd), USS John Paul Jones 2014 test was only another test (at least 250xSM-6 deliered to March 2016, 330xSM-6 to April 2017, 500xSM-6 delivered to 2019?, up to 1800xSM-6 to be delivered to 2026):
https://web.archive.org/web/20141103113 ... res&id=337

https://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/sm-6

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/ ... hing-42987

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_ ... SM-6_ERAM)

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/2 ... gher-speed

[jun5896]

ORIGINAL: stilesw

SM-6 Block 1A can't mounted Mk41 VLS(29, 32, 61, 64 Cells) in newest DB3000 version(v481a).

Original documentation shows that the RIM-174 SM-6 Extended Range Active Missile (ERAM) was tested aboard the USS John Paul Jones (DDG-53) Arleigh Burke during exercises from 18–20 June 2014. It is a loadout option on that ship in DB3K_481+.

It does not show that it has been installed on other USN ships yet and will be likely added when published documentation supports it.

-WS

But.. #3194 - DDG 53 John Paul Jones [Arleigh Burke Flight I] has been mounted #1310 RIM-174A ERAM SM-6 Blk I.

It can only target Aircraft / Missiles under newest database.

On 18 January 2016, John Paul Jones sank the decommissioned guided-missile frigate Reuben James in a test of a new anti-surface warfare variant of the Raytheon Standard Missile 6 (SM-6), becoming the first ship to sink a ship with the new variant of the missile. John Paul Jones fired the missile on the U.S. Pacific Missile Range near Hawaii.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_John_ ... s_(DDG-53)

The former frigate USS Reuben James (FFG-57) was sunk in January during a test of the Navy’s new anti-surface warfare (ASuW) variant of the Raytheon Standard Missile 6 (SM-6), company officials told USNI News on Monday.

The adaptation of the SM-6 was fired from guided missile destroyer USS John Paul Jones (DDG-53) and hit James during the Jan. 18 test at the U.S. Pacific Missile Range Facility off the coast of Hawaii, a Raytheon spokeswoman told USNI News.

https://news.usni.org/2016/03/07/navy-s ... ce-missile



USS John Paul Jones used SM-6 Block IA with ASuW Capability.

SM-6 variants

The SM-6 missile is being developed in three variants namely SM-6 Block I, SM-6 Block IA, and SM-6 Dual I.

The SM-6 Block I variant was initially deployed on-board the aegis destroyer, which is built around the aegis combat system. The new variant is powered by a highly sophisticated rocket booster and advanced rocket motors. It has gone through a number of tests and has intercepted a couple of cruise missiles successfully.

The SM-6 Block IA has advanced inbuilt hardware and software systems to overcome the technical glitches involved in the previous variant. It successfully engaged a subsonic cruise missile during a test launch in 2014.

The SM-6 Dual I variant is specifically developed to strike a ballistic missile in the final stages of its flight. It is embedded with dual capability, which enables it to counter both ballistic and cruise missile targets. It will become an integral part of the US Navy’s Sea-Based Terminal programme.

https://www.naval-technology.com/projec ... missile-6/

In 2016, the SM-6 missile engaged its first-ever surface target, the decommissioned guided missile frigate USS Reuben James. The test demonstrated the missile’s capability in anti-surface warfare and illustrated how it directly supports the U.S. Navy’s distributed lethality concept to increase the offensive might of the surface force.

The latest variant is the SM-6 Block IA missile, which is an emerging change to the Block 1 variant, with improvements to the guidance section. These enhancements allow the missile to seek out and destroy a wide variety of advanced threats with precision. The new variant aced its final land-based test in June 2017, moving it to at-sea testing.

https://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/sm-6

It's more useful for SM-6 Block IA(It looks forward to better compatibility with SM-6 Dual I)

The SM-6 Block IA is an emerging change to SM-6 BLK 1, with improvements to the guidance section. These enhancements allow the missile to seek out and destroy a wide variety of advanced threats with precision.

"The Block IA brings a new level of sophistication to the SM-6 and increases the precision of the missile even more," said Mike Campisi, Raytheon's SM-6 senior program director. "Relying less on a ship combat system means the missile can continue to engage targets further and further away with extreme accuracy."

SM-6 is the only missile in the world that can perform anti-air warfare, anti-surface warfare, and terminal ballistic missile defense.

http://raytheon.mediaroom.com/2017-06-2 ... ea-testing

The first version of the Standard Missile-6 became operational in December 2014 and, in January 2015, the Navy authorized the expansion of its use from five to more than 35 ships by certifying its use on non-Baseline 9 ships.4 In 2015, the Navy tested the first upgrade to the missile known as either the Dual I or Increment I. The SM-6 Dual I can intercept both cruise missiles and ballistic missiles in their terminal phase.

https://missilethreat.csis.org/defsys/sm-6/

Standard Missile-6 (SM-6) Block I (BLK I) has attained Initial Operational Capability; Full Operational Capability is expected in FY18.

The Navy commenced operational testing of SM-6 BLK IA, a pre-planned product improvement of the SM-6 BLK I missile, in September 2017. The SM-6 BLK IA testing consists of seven SM-6 BLK IA firings against subsonic and supersonic aerial targets and M&S runs for the record. The Navy intends to complete operational testing in FY18.

The Navy conducted two SM-6 Dual 1 salvo firings against Ballistic Missile Defense (BMD) targets.

SM-6 BLK I and BLK IA are the latest evolution of the Standard Missile family of fleet air defense missiles.

The Navy intends the SM-6 BLK IA upgrade to provide improved performance against advanced threats.

SM-6 Dual I capability is being added to provide Sea-Based Terminal BMD capability against short-range ballistic missiles.

The Navy upgraded the SM-6 to add an anti-surface target capability but it has not yet operationally tested the capability.

• SM-6 BLK IA Operational Testing- The Navy commenced operational testing of the SM-6 BLK IA and successfully conducted two flight tests in September 2017. - Operational testing continues in FY18 to complete planned live flight-testing and M&S runs for the record.

FY17 NAVY PROGRAMS (2017)

https://www.dote.osd.mil/Portals/97/pub ... 113709-553


SM-6 Block IB / SM-6 Dual II

On Jan. 17, the Navy approved plans to develop a Dual Thrust Rocket Motor with a 21-inch diameter for the SM-6, which is currently fielded with a 13.5-inch propulsion package. The new rocket motor would sit atop the current 21-inch booster, producing a new variant of the missile: the SM-6 Block IB.

Jason Sherman, “Navy Looking to Increase Range, Speed of SM-6 with Larger Rocket Motor,” Inside the Navy, July 23, 2018.

3. Fund and execute high-fidelity M&S RFRs for Aegis BL 9.2 SM-3 Block IIA and SM-6 Dual II scenarios that span the engagement battlespace.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/RL33745.pdf

The US Navy (USN) has set out plans for solid-propellent rocket motor prototyping and engineering development for a new extended range version of the Standard Missile-6 (SM-6) missile.

Intended to achieve initial capability in fiscal year 2023 (FY 2023), the SM-6 Block IB variant will introduce a new 21-inch solid rocket sustainer to improve missile range and speed.

https://www.janes.com/article/92682/nav ... evelopment



I think USS John Paul Jones used SM-6 with ASuW capability variant in 2016. It seems likes SM-6 Block IA, that can be guided Anti-Surface(Maybe Ship) target.

SM-6 Block IA is evolution variant, Navy used only for testing purposes until now.

SM-6 Dual I is based on SM-6 Block I.


Nowaday Navy has been looking for increase range, speed of SM-6 with Larger Rocket Motor, It called SM-6 Block IB.

This means that they can skip SM-6 Block IA and will adapt more advanced model, Arleigh Burke Flight III will expect better SM-6 missile in 2023-2024.

[Tailhook]

John Paul Jones is the Aegis and SM test ship. It makes sense for it to get a capability first but the only difference between it and other similar Burke’s is it just gets the newest software.

Source: my college roommate ended up as an officer onboard JPJ.

[jun5896]

ORIGINAL: Tailhook

John Paul Jones is the Aegis and SM test ship. It makes sense for it to get a capability first but the only difference between it and other similar Burke’s is it just gets the newest software.

Source: my college roommate ended up as an officer onboard JPJ.

You're right. USS John Paul Jones is test ship, It has to embodied three variants - 2014(SM-6 Block I) / 2016(SM-6 Block IA ASuW capability) / 2017 (SM-3 Blk IIA test ship).

[FTBSS]

ORIGINAL: jun5896

ORIGINAL: stilesw

SM-6 Block 1A can't mounted Mk41 VLS(29, 32, 61, 64 Cells) in newest DB3000 version(v481a).

Original documentation shows that the RIM-174 SM-6 Extended Range Active Missile (ERAM) was tested aboard the USS John Paul Jones (DDG-53) Arleigh Burke during exercises from 18–20 June 2014. It is a loadout option on that ship in DB3K_481+.

It does not show that it has been installed on other USN ships yet and will be likely added when published documentation supports it.

-WS

But.. #3194 - DDG 53 John Paul Jones [Arleigh Burke Flight I] has been mounted #1310 RIM-174A ERAM SM-6 Blk I.

It can only target Aircraft / Missiles under newest database.

On 18 January 2016, John Paul Jones sank the decommissioned guided-missile frigate Reuben James in a test of a new anti-surface warfare variant of the Raytheon Standard Missile 6 (SM-6), becoming the first ship to sink a ship with the new variant of the missile. John Paul Jones fired the missile on the U.S. Pacific Missile Range near Hawaii.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_John_ ... s_(DDG-53)

The former frigate USS Reuben James (FFG-57) was sunk in January during a test of the Navy’s new anti-surface warfare (ASuW) variant of the Raytheon Standard Missile 6 (SM-6), company officials told USNI News on Monday.

The adaptation of the SM-6 was fired from guided missile destroyer USS John Paul Jones (DDG-53) and hit James during the Jan. 18 test at the U.S. Pacific Missile Range Facility off the coast of Hawaii, a Raytheon spokeswoman told USNI News.

https://news.usni.org/2016/03/07/navy-s ... ce-missile



USS John Paul Jones used SM-6 Block IA with ASuW Capability.

SM-6 variants

The SM-6 missile is being developed in three variants namely SM-6 Block I, SM-6 Block IA, and SM-6 Dual I.

The SM-6 Block I variant was initially deployed on-board the aegis destroyer, which is built around the aegis combat system. The new variant is powered by a highly sophisticated rocket booster and advanced rocket motors. It has gone through a number of tests and has intercepted a couple of cruise missiles successfully.

The SM-6 Block IA has advanced inbuilt hardware and software systems to overcome the technical glitches involved in the previous variant. It successfully engaged a subsonic cruise missile during a test launch in 2014.

The SM-6 Dual I variant is specifically developed to strike a ballistic missile in the final stages of its flight. It is embedded with dual capability, which enables it to counter both ballistic and cruise missile targets. It will become an integral part of the US Navy’s Sea-Based Terminal programme.

https://www.naval-technology.com/projec ... missile-6/

In 2016, the SM-6 missile engaged its first-ever surface target, the decommissioned guided missile frigate USS Reuben James. The test demonstrated the missile’s capability in anti-surface warfare and illustrated how it directly supports the U.S. Navy’s distributed lethality concept to increase the offensive might of the surface force.

The latest variant is the SM-6 Block IA missile, which is an emerging change to the Block 1 variant, with improvements to the guidance section. These enhancements allow the missile to seek out and destroy a wide variety of advanced threats with precision. The new variant aced its final land-based test in June 2017, moving it to at-sea testing.

https://www.raytheon.com/capabilities/products/sm-6

It's more useful for SM-6 Block IA(It looks forward to better compatibility with SM-6 Dual I)

The SM-6 Block IA is an emerging change to SM-6 BLK 1, with improvements to the guidance section. These enhancements allow the missile to seek out and destroy a wide variety of advanced threats with precision.

"The Block IA brings a new level of sophistication to the SM-6 and increases the precision of the missile even more," said Mike Campisi, Raytheon's SM-6 senior program director. "Relying less on a ship combat system means the missile can continue to engage targets further and further away with extreme accuracy."

SM-6 is the only missile in the world that can perform anti-air warfare, anti-surface warfare, and terminal ballistic missile defense.

http://raytheon.mediaroom.com/2017-06-2 ... ea-testing

The first version of the Standard Missile-6 became operational in December 2014 and, in January 2015, the Navy authorized the expansion of its use from five to more than 35 ships by certifying its use on non-Baseline 9 ships.4 In 2015, the Navy tested the first upgrade to the missile known as either the Dual I or Increment I. The SM-6 Dual I can intercept both cruise missiles and ballistic missiles in their terminal phase.

https://missilethreat.csis.org/defsys/sm-6/

Standard Missile-6 (SM-6) Block I (BLK I) has attained Initial Operational Capability; Full Operational Capability is expected in FY18.

The Navy commenced operational testing of SM-6 BLK IA, a pre-planned product improvement of the SM-6 BLK I missile, in September 2017. The SM-6 BLK IA testing consists of seven SM-6 BLK IA firings against subsonic and supersonic aerial targets and M&S runs for the record. The Navy intends to complete operational testing in FY18.

The Navy conducted two SM-6 Dual 1 salvo firings against Ballistic Missile Defense (BMD) targets.

SM-6 BLK I and BLK IA are the latest evolution of the Standard Missile family of fleet air defense missiles.

The Navy intends the SM-6 BLK IA upgrade to provide improved performance against advanced threats.

SM-6 Dual I capability is being added to provide Sea-Based Terminal BMD capability against short-range ballistic missiles.

The Navy upgraded the SM-6 to add an anti-surface target capability but it has not yet operationally tested the capability.

• SM-6 BLK IA Operational Testing- The Navy commenced operational testing of the SM-6 BLK IA and successfully conducted two flight tests in September 2017. - Operational testing continues in FY18 to complete planned live flight-testing and M&S runs for the record.

FY17 NAVY PROGRAMS (2017)

https://www.dote.osd.mil/Portals/97/pub ... 113709-553


SM-6 Block IB / SM-6 Dual II

On Jan. 17, the Navy approved plans to develop a Dual Thrust Rocket Motor with a 21-inch diameter for the SM-6, which is currently fielded with a 13.5-inch propulsion package. The new rocket motor would sit atop the current 21-inch booster, producing a new variant of the missile: the SM-6 Block IB.

Jason Sherman, “Navy Looking to Increase Range, Speed of SM-6 with Larger Rocket Motor,” Inside the Navy, July 23, 2018.

3. Fund and execute high-fidelity M&S RFRs for Aegis BL 9.2 SM-3 Block IIA and SM-6 Dual II scenarios that span the engagement battlespace.

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/weapons/RL33745.pdf

The US Navy (USN) has set out plans for solid-propellent rocket motor prototyping and engineering development for a new extended range version of the Standard Missile-6 (SM-6) missile.

Intended to achieve initial capability in fiscal year 2023 (FY 2023), the SM-6 Block IB variant will introduce a new 21-inch solid rocket sustainer to improve missile range and speed.

https://www.janes.com/article/92682/nav ... evelopment



I think USS John Paul Jones used SM-6 with ASuW capability variant in 2016. It seems likes SM-6 Block IA, that can be guided Anti-Surface(Maybe Ship) target.

SM-6 Block IA is evolution variant, Navy used only for testing purposes until now.

SM-6 Dual I is based on SM-6 Block I.


Nowaday Navy has been looking for increase range, speed of SM-6 with Larger Rocket Motor, It called SM-6 Block IB.

This means that they can skip SM-6 Block IA and will adapt more advanced model, Arleigh Burke Flight III will expect better SM-6 missile in 2023-2024.

These have been reported several times now along with the Spy 6 radar improvements which have for some reason not been implemented. For some reason the SM-6 BLK1A was available to loadout on a previous DB but last 3 DB the ability to loadout has been removed. The documentation for this addition along with the documentation for the path forward for the BLK II or BLK 1B whichever they decide to go with is in excess of what I have seen for other DB updates that have been added after this was reported.

I love the massive update that the developers provided recently but was a bit disappointed that these changes weren't included, as most scenarios I make are with US Navy forces with my background of being an ex-Bubblehead.

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1 extra link with detail info and images on the Krabi class. Might be useful:
https://thaimilitaryandasianregion.word ... -thailand/

with regards