Map of Europe (edition) 20kms/hex
RE: Map of Europe 20kms/hex .....Pre release download.....
I am in the tiny little lakes mode right now, and your Finland pic will be of definite help.
RE: Map of Europe 20kms/hex .....Pre release download.....
Hi Elessar - any chance I could get access to your map so I can see if it might work for a WW3 mod I'm gradually working on? I started on a new map at similar sort of scale, but this one looks more advanced.
Thanks!
Thanks!
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RE: Map of Europe 20kms/hex .....Pre release download.....
I must have missed the above post-I thus apologize to The Land.
I'll be wrapping up the final major landmass [Greenland] in the next couple of days, at which point I can PM you with the link-I may make it public so someone can critique my decisions-the America's involved all sorts of dilemmas & compromises.
Another boon-Google tonight apparently updated their maps, which among other things made forests stand out more. Right before I was to begin on specific tile details like that. [8D]
I'll be wrapping up the final major landmass [Greenland] in the next couple of days, at which point I can PM you with the link-I may make it public so someone can critique my decisions-the America's involved all sorts of dilemmas & compromises.
Another boon-Google tonight apparently updated their maps, which among other things made forests stand out more. Right before I was to begin on specific tile details like that. [8D]
RE: Map of Europe 20kms/hex .....Pre release download.....
Welp, here it is, all major landmasses and islands now are in:

I had a devil of a time deciding on what to do with North America. I could have stuck with the default projection scheme, but that would have meant Newfoundland would "tilt" & project into the middle of the Atlantic even more than it does now, and would have meant deleting many southern US hexes, and I wanted to keep the Chesapeake in there. I did move the whole thing farther north tho than it would be on a pure Mercator projection.
For some bizarre reason Hudson Bay is about 20 hexes too far east-I just went over the thing comparing it to Google Maps' distances and at worst it should be off by no more than 4-5 hexes. But since it is cut off from the rest of the map and only a lunatic would sail anything in there even if they could, not going to worry about it too much.
So North America is about 75% of the actual distance to Europe, but, since all hexes were maxed out, I think we can live with that (it will also shorten transit times). I likewise had to fudge where the Azores would go so that they wouldn't sit right in the middle of the Atlantic and thus affect the U-boat war; they're thus about 30% closer to Spain.
I am pleased with the locations of Iceland & Greenland (they unlike NA are indeed tilted, 20 degrees, same as Spain & Great Britain).
Next: lakes and then rivers...

I had a devil of a time deciding on what to do with North America. I could have stuck with the default projection scheme, but that would have meant Newfoundland would "tilt" & project into the middle of the Atlantic even more than it does now, and would have meant deleting many southern US hexes, and I wanted to keep the Chesapeake in there. I did move the whole thing farther north tho than it would be on a pure Mercator projection.
For some bizarre reason Hudson Bay is about 20 hexes too far east-I just went over the thing comparing it to Google Maps' distances and at worst it should be off by no more than 4-5 hexes. But since it is cut off from the rest of the map and only a lunatic would sail anything in there even if they could, not going to worry about it too much.
So North America is about 75% of the actual distance to Europe, but, since all hexes were maxed out, I think we can live with that (it will also shorten transit times). I likewise had to fudge where the Azores would go so that they wouldn't sit right in the middle of the Atlantic and thus affect the U-boat war; they're thus about 30% closer to Spain.
I am pleased with the locations of Iceland & Greenland (they unlike NA are indeed tilted, 20 degrees, same as Spain & Great Britain).
Next: lakes and then rivers...
RE: Map of Europe 20kms/hex .....Pre release download.....
Wow, that's an insanely detailed map! Good luck on getting it finished!
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RE: Map of Europe 20kms/hex .....Pre release download.....
ORIGINAL: Elessar2
I must have missed the above post-I thus apologize to The Land.
I'll be wrapping up the final major landmass [Greenland] in the next couple of days, at which point I can PM you with the link-I may make it public so someone can critique my decisions-the America's involved all sorts of dilemmas & compromises.
No worries, I'm not exactly in a rush! Looks like great work, happy to give some feedback if that's helpful

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I've downloaded and opened! I may have time to make some comments/suggestions - is there any particular way you'd like feedback?
And do you by any chance still have the original image you imported, for comparison purposes?
And do you by any chance still have the original image you imported, for comparison purposes?
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With my Pacific map now in beta testing, have restarted work on my first love. Currently trying to get all of the Russian cities and towns properly sited. A big consideration is just how "dense" to make the city network: put in too many too close together and it will become a slog; put in too few and supply distances will be too great to sustain offensives. There will be more Settlements however, since they have a low defensive bonus but can still provide some needed supply.
Like with Italy below, there is some N-S stretching, esp. in the middle of the map E of the Pripet Marshes, but again ripping it all up and starting over wouldn't be worth it.

I have finished the Grecian and Italian coasts:


I am not fully satisfied with N Italy however-the northern third is a bit too long (and I can't match up the two bays in terms of N-S), but trying to fix it all would basically require me to completely redo the entire Med, and it isn't worth it for a few extra hexes and 2 bays which are somewhat misaligned.
This syndrome has also affected the E-W shapes of Corsica and Sardinia, stretching them a bit in that dimension. But I'll live with it.
An actual scenario is still a fair ways away, but I'm slowly getting there.
Like with Italy below, there is some N-S stretching, esp. in the middle of the map E of the Pripet Marshes, but again ripping it all up and starting over wouldn't be worth it.

I have finished the Grecian and Italian coasts:


I am not fully satisfied with N Italy however-the northern third is a bit too long (and I can't match up the two bays in terms of N-S), but trying to fix it all would basically require me to completely redo the entire Med, and it isn't worth it for a few extra hexes and 2 bays which are somewhat misaligned.
This syndrome has also affected the E-W shapes of Corsica and Sardinia, stretching them a bit in that dimension. But I'll live with it.
An actual scenario is still a fair ways away, but I'm slowly getting there.
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Another fantastic job...just like the WitP mod for WaW we are beta testing atm
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RE: Map of Europe 20kms/hex .....Pre release download.....
Yes! Please continue with this, WAW seems to get all the attention lately, but it would be great to add another reason to re-visit WIE regularly.
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amazing work - great to see it!
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Welp just wait a few days and you can when I upload the most recent map: all coastlines & lakes should be finished by the end of the weekend (I only have Labrador & N. Quebec left, if I dare go deep down the rabbit hole for an area which will never see combat). Again still a TON of work to be done: for vanilla there's about 40,000 hexes; in my Pacific map there's 48,000, but of course a lot of those are water. Here there's 130,000, the majority land. I've decided to start with Barbarossa '41, because the Russian Front is the do or die front, and it would be a drag having to wait 20 months to test it.
RE: Map of Europe 20kms/hex .....Pre release download.....
All the coastlines & lakes are DONE! [Tho I am sure I will tweak a few here and there as needed]
North Central Quebec:

Corsica & Sardinia (turns out last year when I was still doing this by trial and error I made them too big):

Central Finland & Russia:

NOW comes the real fun part: rivers, roads, and rails. Whee.
North Central Quebec:

Corsica & Sardinia (turns out last year when I was still doing this by trial and error I made them too big):

Central Finland & Russia:

NOW comes the real fun part: rivers, roads, and rails. Whee.
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Man...this is impressive! The coast lines and lakes extremely accurate.
And look at Finland..not 3 times as big a Germany with this projection.
Speaking of Finland...finally some proper love. Operation Silver Fox
via Salla to Kandalaska and the Murmansk railroad here we come. [:D]
And look at Finland..not 3 times as big a Germany with this projection.
Speaking of Finland...finally some proper love. Operation Silver Fox
via Salla to Kandalaska and the Murmansk railroad here we come. [:D]
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The Canadian screenie especially could be used as a Rorschach kind of test... Yes that is Manicouagan crater there.
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