2 questions

[bush]

One is procedural one is info related.

Procedural. (First, do I get a prize for asking the 10,000th question about pilot training?) If as Allied I am using a VRF torpedo squadron and training in the RECON skill. Eventually I pull some trained pilots and place them in the reserves. My question is, do they go to the section for BOMBERS or to PATROL? And related to that, and perhaps making my first question moot, when I am extracting a pilot-if I have a CV-based TBD squadron that has been doing nothing but recce missions. When I pull from reserves (and NOT manually looking but just using the Get Pilot buttons, does the computer look at the main mission my sqd. needs and it pulls a pilot with that type of training, or does it first go to bombers?

Second question - I am late in the war (March '45) and I have not seen either of the Spragues as CV commanders and/or available as TF ldrs. Are they absent from the game?

Thanks!

[Q-Ball]

ORIGINAL: bush

One is procedural one is info related.

Procedural. (First, do I get a prize for asking the 10,000th question about pilot training?) If as Allied I am using a VRF torpedo squadron and training in the RECON skill. Eventually I pull some trained pilots and place them in the reserves. My question is, do they go to the section for BOMBERS or to PATROL? And related to that, and perhaps making my first question moot, when I am extracting a pilot-if I have a CV-based TBD squadron that has been doing nothing but recce missions. When I pull from reserves (and NOT manually looking but just using the Get Pilot buttons, does the computer look at the main mission my sqd. needs and it pulls a pilot with that type of training, or does it first go to bombers?

Second question - I am late in the war (March '45) and I have not seen either of the Spragues as CV commanders and/or available as TF ldrs. Are they absent from the game?

Thanks!

The pilots from the VRF unit will always go to the bomber pool. You can request them to a RECON unit though by just getting veterans from the bomber pool (sort by Recon skill)

No idea on the Spragues

[geofflambert]

The group the pilots go to is based on the aircraft they trained in. Each squadron that you might use for training is limited in the type of aircraft available to it. Some squadrons have planes in various categories available to it, so even if the squadron is allowed to upgrade to a fighter plane if it trains in a bomber the trained pilot when released will go to the bomber pool if trained on a bomber or to the patrol if trained on a float plane etc. and so forth. Float fighters release to the fighter reserve group, not patrol.

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: Q-Ball

ORIGINAL: bush

One is procedural one is info related.

Procedural. (First, do I get a prize for asking the 10,000th question about pilot training?) If as Allied I am using a VRF torpedo squadron and training in the RECON skill. Eventually I pull some trained pilots and place them in the reserves. My question is, do they go to the section for BOMBERS or to PATROL? And related to that, and perhaps making my first question moot, when I am extracting a pilot-if I have a CV-based TBD squadron that has been doing nothing but recce missions. When I pull from reserves (and NOT manually looking but just using the Get Pilot buttons, does the computer look at the main mission my sqd. needs and it pulls a pilot with that type of training, or does it first go to bombers?

Second question - I am late in the war (March '45) and I have not seen either of the Spragues as CV commanders and/or available as TF ldrs. Are they absent from the game?

Thanks!

The pilots from the VRF unit will always go to the bomber pool. You can request them to a RECON unit though by just getting veterans from the bomber pool (sort by Recon skill)

No idea on the Spragues

Many leaders show up later in the game. The Spragues are surely among these. Use the Editor to look in your Scenario's database under the Leaders tab. Type in the last name and an initial and it should go to that leader (or a previously arriving leader with the same name and initial - just tell the Editor to keep searching further down from there).

[Ambassador]

The Sprague have a problem in stock, they’re Rear Admirals but defined as Ship-type leaders.

[Sardaukar]

Some good Air commanders are also CV captains. Worth to replace and thus enable to command CVTF. Mitcher and Sherman.

[Ian R]

If you add their CV to the TF last, they will be the TF CO.

This also works with Mitscher (arrives on Hornet IIRC), and one other guy (Ted Sherman?).

They however are rated as TF leaders so once you remove them from their original carrier they are TF only.

[Ambassador]

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Some good Air commanders are also CV captains. Worth to replace and thus enable to command CVTF. Mitcher and Sherman.

Yes, but they are assigned to the ships in the editor. Once removed from their ship, you can’t assign them to ships but only to TF, as this is the type of command set by the editor.

ÉDIT: yeah, I should have read Ian R’s post before answering, I just said the same thing.[:D]

[Ian R]

I just double checked scenario 1, and the Spragues are in the ship captain leader category, although they are admiral rank.

This of course makes them a cheap and efficient short cut - if you pay (once) to put them on an Essex (or one of the standard CVEs) and always select their carrier last, you get a PP free admiral.

[Ambassador]

ORIGINAL: Ian R

I just double checked scenario 1, and the Spragues are in the ship captain leader category, although they are admiral rank.

This of course makes them a cheap and efficient short cut - if you pay (once) to put them on an Essex (or one of the standard CVEs) and always select their carrier last, you get a PP free admiral.

You can’t select them as ship captains. I suppose it’s due to their rank.

[Ian R]

I see what you mean. At least you get twin Spruances to make up for it.

[bush]

When I am in the editor and click on a category - in this case leaders - NOTHING happens At all. So, those of you saying the Spragues are listed as ship captains, does it list the ship?

[Ian R]

Which scenario database did you load?

[Ambassador]

When you launch the Editor, you have to select « File » then « Open Scenario ... » to load a database. Only then will you have datas to consult and/or modify.

And once done editing (if you don’t limit yourself to consult but actually mod the scenario), never forget to « Save Scenario » or « Save Scenario As ... » or you’ll lose everything you’ve changed.[;)]

[Ambassador]

ORIGINAL: Ian R

I see what you mean. At least you get twin Spruances to make up for it.

Yeah, a peculiarity of the USN Headquarter leaders.[:D]

Another « feature » of stock Scenario 1 is that Clifton Sprague is assigned to command PT-74...[8|]

[Alfred]

ORIGINAL: bush

When I am in the editor and click on a category - in this case leaders - NOTHING happens At all. So, those of you saying the Spragues are listed as ship captains, does it list the ship?

In the Editor, leaders pre-assigned to a specific ships are displayed on the ship list. The leader list does not display any ship they are pre-assigned to.

Alfred

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: Alfred

ORIGINAL: bush

When I am in the editor and click on a category - in this case leaders - NOTHING happens At all. So, those of you saying the Spragues are listed as ship captains, does it list the ship?

In the Editor, leaders pre-assigned to a specific ships are displayed on the ship list. The leader list does not display any ship they are pre-assigned to.

Alfred

Yes, it is an unfortunate "feature". If you export the files to csv's, then you can link the ship and leader files and get the ship AND the date that the leader will start on that ship added into the leader file. it is one of the more common lookups you have to do when modding ...

[Ambassador]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

ORIGINAL: Alfred

ORIGINAL: bush

When I am in the editor and click on a category - in this case leaders - NOTHING happens At all. So, those of you saying the Spragues are listed as ship captains, does it list the ship?

In the Editor, leaders pre-assigned to a specific ships are displayed on the ship list. The leader list does not display any ship they are pre-assigned to.

Alfred

Yes, it is an unfortunate "feature". If you export the files to csv's, then you can link the ship and leader files and get the ship AND the date that the leader will start on that ship added into the leader file. it is one of the more common lookups you have to do when modding ...

You get all that in Tracker.

[RhinoDad]

Most pilots trained and sent to reserve seem to be self evident as to what category they will be put under and drawn from. Fighter to Fighter, Bomber to Bomber, Search to Search; however, what category do “Float Plane” go to and draw from?

[Thayne]

ORIGINAL: RhinoDad

Most pilots trained and sent to reserve seem to be self evident as to what category they will be put under and drawn from. Fighter to Fighter, Bomber to Bomber, Search to Search; however, what category do “Float Plane” go to and draw from?

"Patrol", typically. Unless it is a float fighter, in which case it is "fighter"