The Screams of the deceased Soldiers, HLYA(G) vs Gunnulf(S)

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Turn 7

Leningrad FBD track conversion this turn. Heavy woods is a nightmare to convert. In mud converting heavy woods track is 10 times worse. Hence my speed to get this done "ASAP"

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Turn 7

Added another redundant link on the single track. This FBD will also link to Velikie Luki by single track to finish another redundancy then will head south to Vitebsk marked in blue. The other FBD will be converting the Heavy woods track marked in Lime.

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Turn 7

I already have the Riga line done which already goes all the way back to Germany from Riga too by rail.

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Turn 7


Will see where the Armor will displace too when moving next to it. I am using my lowest point PZ division for this.

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Turn 7

Odessa fleeing routed units try to surround.

The armor division went to where the blue line is & I will attack the Mech division to get it out of the way by retreating or routing. I do this based on what I saw in the next picture and will show.

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Turn 7

Odessa fleeing routed units try to surround

I get the PZ next to the Mech and notice circled in red this hex did not flip to my control. So there is a Soviet unit in the adjoining hex marked with a Red X. I route away the Soviet Mech.

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Turn 7

Odessa fleeing routed units try to surround

I bring up another PZ with a lot more MP's to see what we have. Hmmmmm, the Armor division should route to the SE marked in light blue. But if that hex is full it will route to the west from my observations in WITE2 marked in orange. At least that has been my observations so far in my short career WITE2. Here goes.

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Turn 7

Odessa fleeing routed units try to surround

The blue circled hex has to be at stacking capacity. Thus the routed Armor unit went west. At least has held true most of the times I have witnessed retreats.

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Turn 7

Odessa fleeing troops, most, look to have been captured. I hope. I still have housekeeping and other things to do in this area.

[Dodo98]

I think this is the wrong thread, this is our game not that against Gunnulf

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ORIGINAL: Dodo98

I think this is the wrong thread, this is our game not that against Gunnulf

Yes, you are 100% correct. Well that was fun. Now to do it all again

[Dodo98]

ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

ORIGINAL: Dodo98

I think this is the wrong thread, this is our game not that against Gunnulf

Yes, you are 100% correct. Well that was fun. Now to do it all again

I feel your pain [:D]

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

ORIGINAL: Dodo98

I think this is the wrong thread, this is our game not that against Gunnulf

Yes, you are 100% correct. Well that was fun. Now to do it all again

Now posting in the Real thread, lol. Will update this thread later this afternoon on final positions and will just use those placeholders. Will go over to the Soviet AAR thread and post correctly this time. GAH I sux at this.

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ORIGINAL: Dodo98

ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

ORIGINAL: Dodo98

I think this is the wrong thread, this is our game not that against Gunnulf

Yes, you are 100% correct. Well that was fun. Now to do it all again

I feel your pain [:D]

What happens when you just wake up

[sil01]

Hello to the whole community!

Just now I saw this very interesting AAR.

The new WITE2 requires innovative methods and HLYA generously gives them to us!
Stopping the Center before the 7th move, without exaggeration, keeps all spectators in suspense)))

As a permanent Soviet player, I am very worried about the Soviet side.
Of course, it is impossible to keep the blow on any one target chosen by the Germans (Leningrad or Moscow).
It is not in the power of the Russians at 41.
But to keep one thing is possible and we must fight for it.

The Stavka must be subjected to merciless criticism.

1) How was it possible to allow on the 5th move the unhindered spread of tanks along the line Staraya Russa >> Valdai >> Bologoye through forests and swamps (!) in regimental formations (!)?
This risky undertaking of HLYA was successfully realized only with the complete inaction of the Russians.

2) Encirclement of the Russians west of Kiev on turn 5.
There shouldn't be any Russian troops there at all!
They should be a thin line along the southern edge of the Pripyat bogs, and the rest should be already beyond the Dnieper, blocking the crossing of the Dnieper east of Kiev.

3) Encirclement of Russians in Kiev.
This can be avoided altogether.
But even if even deliberately go for it, then there should be just enough troops in Kiev to lure and hold the Germans.
Only 5 divisions enough, and the rest behind the Dnieper (see p. 2).

4) Unhindered spread of Romanians in Central Ukraine?
Yes, central Ukraine cannot be held, but the Germans must be made to run.
The Russians should force 1-2 tank corps to engage in the center of Ukraine, and not rest and replenish!

5) Encirclement of the Russians in the Vitebsk region on move 7.
We are constantly calculating undetected tanks.
If two moves are not visible, then they are refueling.
In the North and South, a large number are involved and they can be seen. So the tanks are being prepared in Belarus.
After stabilizing the front, the Russians count 1-2-3 and retreat 5 hexes.
The blow - and in the pocket of 3-4 divisions, and the fuel is burned.

This is what we see surrounded by Lepel-Borisov on turn 6.
The result of the blow of the refueled and replenished German 4 TDs was the encirclement of the 4 SDs of the Russians.
At the same time, the tanks did not move east, but south, into swamps and forests.
This could be considered an example of Russian tactics in 41, but it looks like it happened by accident (((

It is clear that even if all my wisdom is realized, the position of the Russians will not improve.
But the position of the Germans must deteriorate. And this should happen all the time!
In any case, even with such mistakes, the war has not yet been resolved.

I have not found the Soviet AAR, so I am writing here.

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ORIGINAL: sil01

Hello to the whole community!

Just now I saw this very interesting AAR.

The new WITE2 requires innovative methods and HLYA generously gives them to us!
Stopping the Center before the 7th move, without exaggeration, keeps all spectators in suspense)))

Hi, I will comment on this part real quick of what you wrote and will write later on some of the other number items when I finish up my turn.

First, I don't know if people realize or not but I don't restrict my AAR's thus even my opponents can see pretty much in real time what I am doing. All of my post are when I am doing my moves of the actual turn, no delay(unless stated). All 4 of my games are like that. If my opponents use the information or not I don't know but I have on more than a few occasions told people to use it if they like.

This is the 2nd time I have done this blitz to Leningrad although a bit different. I can 100% say that the delimiting factor is the FBD in WITE2 for the Germans. I am sure all realize this. BUT if I can finish this rail line with all my redundancy in the North to Moscow area I see some very good benefits.

I may not get turn 16 Auto win but I should have Leningrad and Moscow taken way before blizzard. Leningrad should be taken between the turns of 9-12. Moscow should be under threat turn 14-18.

***There isn't a Soviet AAR & all are free to post here even my opponent.***

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I will now finish up my German moves to update my posting of my Soviet game here. Those posts will start at post #319 through #329

Sorry about the mess up on posting in wrong thread of my AAR's Be back in a few as I finish up this German turn.

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Turn 7

There, fixed the mistake from this morning by miss posting in wrong AAR. We are now straight again on the AAR and I have more photos to go. Gotta fix lunch will be back in a bit.

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Turn 7 End of Turn

Leningrad

16 Divisions showing outside of Leningrad. Leningrad is a City Fort + Oran a City fort. Possible up to 36 Division here. I will go with 20 as a conservative estimate. The defense value of the Soviets shows 15 as the highest so some pretty weak divisions now I would surmise. Need to have this cleared out the sooner the better. Using way too many resources up here. I really don't like this Northern Strat since, as I posted in BETA and after release, the center is where the Germans really need to play.

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Turn 7 End of Turn

Still waiting around. Pushed a few Soviets around but just sitting waiting for the supply. Should be ready turn 8/9 to go to work again. If this wasnt real time the attention would have been drawn to Vitebsk area. But since all can read people know what I am doing

I know the Soviets read the AAR since the railyard bombing has stopped in both my games No one else was publishing the results of that But all good.

*** Look like he was going to try and sneak some CAV in on me. I don't leave gaps like that often for Soviet Explotation into my backfield ***